OMG! (Oh my god) Our society will never survive.

[Pixguy]

Well said.

Agreed as well.

I would have been put on Ritalin if I was a kid today. Glad I'm not.

 

[tcreeley]

High energy people can be bi-polar people as well, big ideas, get a lot done, and fade as their natural rhythms shift. Not every high energy person is ADHD. Like saying that Einstein had a learning disability, or the latest - that Einstein was autistic because he was smart (meant he was a geek and geeks are autistic). Society never knows what to do with its members who are different.
Live and let live is my approach.

 

[houstonscott]

High energy people can be bi-polar people as well, big ideas, get a lot done, and fade as their natural rhythms shift. Not every high energy person is ADHD. Like saying that Einstein had a learning disability, or the latest - that Einstein was autistic because he was smart (meant he was a geek and geeks are autistic). Society never knows what to do with its members who are different. Live and let live is my approach.

Just remember very smart is as abnormal as dumb dumb. High energy doesn't = smart. HS

 

[Redneck in training]

I concur to a limited extent. :laughing:

I don't doubt that we are more aware of and discerning of various conditions than in the past, and we have some treatments now that did not exist back when.

In parallel with that we are also experiencing a vastly different environment than in the past. Hundreds (thousands?) of man-made chemicals are present in the environment now that did not exist earlier. We also have air and water pollutants, and pollutant levels, that are unique to the current age. We ingest these pollutants directly and take them in via food as residues. We are what we eat--literally--and the veggies, fruits and meats that we eat are also what they "eat."

I would not discount that change and assume it has no effect. That would be a relative miracle if that were true.

Given the number and combinations of environmental factors, there is more to study, understand and learn than we have the capacity to do, really. Talent, time and resources are not up to the job. Given that some of those things are wasted on "studies" with predetermined agenda-driven results, makes it even worse since that forces the burning of resources to refute the propaganda.

The research done over the past several years on honeybee colony collapse is a good example of the difficulty in sorting out all those potential causal factors. The latest research shows neonicotinoids do not directly kill bees, it just makes them learning impaired to the point that it impacts the colony survival.
Researchers confirm that neonicotinoid insecticides impair bee's brains

We surely do not know if similar things are happening--or not--in humans.

We as humans are in evolutionary crunch. We are smart enough to cause all the problems we are having but not smart enough to solve them.

W

 

[Ed of all trades]

My brother in law was a principal of a large school system here in Va and he said that the schools get more $$$$ for every kid that they have on Ritalin. He said it is not a small amount and some school systems are milking it for all it is worth.

 

[SPIKER]

I also agree with most that something is amiss with the youth in that we have LOTS more kids with issues. Some lead back to parents with smoking this/that and other or horrible foods given to our kids/infants etc. Back 30/40+ years ago we didnt have 1000's of additives in our infant's formula, it came mostly from the mothers milk. Our foods didn't come from boxes, plastic containers or vacuumed sealed full of preservatives. The fields were not sprayed 3 or 4 times with weed killers or pesticides. Most of the cooking was still done with cast iron & high fats people worked harder and burnt it off without taking 10 pills a day. My grandpaw on moms side 100 yrs old, gmaw 89 & mom & dad both lived into their 88~94 respectively. I have already lost 2 siblings, sister and a brother to misc disorders @ 55 and 48 yrs old. My nephews and nieces are all semi "slow acting." The majority have been into drugs of some type as they all gravitate towards same idiotic people (not hanging with us sensible & responsible people.) Two of the older ones are finally getting their lives in order but at least 15 years behind the time they should have.

The children of these relatives are suffering due to their parents inability to teach, care for or set an example for them. Back when I was a kid in early 70's these kids would have been put in the slow learner classes (with LOTS of real instructor teaching going on not just a babysitting place.)

Government has also gone from a limited conservative one to a/an unlimited debt spending juggernaut that's main concern is to perpetuate itself. Agencies such as EPA; FDA, IRS, NSA, CIA, BLM etc all are writing their own "rules" for we the people to follow. Their main concern is not our well-being but getting more $ to pay themselves & establish more control. I'm a firm believer that the school system is well beyond broken they are teaching our kids that the Government is in control & should NEVER be questioned. It is the wolves leading the sheep for sure and as I approach my retirement I feel if I'm not able to provide all of my own $ needs nothing will be available from the soon to be bankrupt Government.


M

 

[Redneck in training]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB6fUqmyKC8

 

[rtimgray]

I would note only that the video in the link above was sponsored by an organic food market chain. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, only that they have a vested interest in the outcome of the switch from pesticide-laden food to organic food. I haven't looked, but I bet the pesticide companies can find evidence to support their side of the case as well. Once again...

...follow the money.

Organic food suppliers may be nobler than evil chemical companies, but they are still in it for the money (not that there's anything wrong with that). However, without our modern farming chemicals and techniques, would the world population be able to eat as well as it does? Likely not. There is an inherent sacrifice that comes with the use of herbicides, pesticides, etc. that result in greater yielding crops. Is the trade-off worth it? I don't know - time will tell.

Good luck and take care.

 

[smstonypoint]

Re autism, latest connection being studied is that glysophate residue is interacting with the body to increase aluminum (a neuro-toxin) uptake.
Autism Explained: Synergistic Poisoning from Aluminum and Glyphosate - Stephanie Seneff
Autism Explained: Synergistic Poisoning from Aluminum and Glyphosate - Stephanie Seneff | autismone.org

Aluminum exposure is one of the markers for Alzheimers as well.

The Round up and Monsanto folks say this is bogus - follow the dollar.


......Unless we solve this one, the bulk of the population being born will be on the spectrum.

Stephanie Seneff? I thought I recognized the name. She's a quack of the first order.

Remember Stephanie Seneff? When last Orac discussed her, she had been caught dumpster diving into the VAERS database in order to torture the data to make it confess a link between aluminum adjuvants in vaccines and acetaminophen and you guessed it autism. It was a bad paper in a bad journal known as Entropy that I deconstructed in detail around two years ago. As I said at the time, I hadn't seen a review article that long and that badly done since the even more horrible article by Helen Ratajczak entitled Theoretical aspects of autism: Causes: a review (which, not surprisingly, was cited approvingly by Seneff et al). Seneff, it turns out, is an MIT scientist, but she is not a scientist with any expertise in autism, epidemiology, or, for that matter, any relevant scientific discipline that would give her the background knowledge and skill set to take on analyzing the epidemiological literature regarding autism. Indeed, she is in the Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory at MIT. ......

So what we have here is a computer scientist interested in artificial intelligence who thinks she can switch her expertise to medicine, biology, and epidemiology. Let's just put it this way. An undergraduate degree in biophysics in 1968 does not qualify one to do this sort of research, and, as I discussed in her foray into autism and vaccine epidemiology, it really does show. Badly. The paper was so embarrassingly incompetent that I'm surprised any journal was willing to publish it.......

The bottom line is that the crank magnetism is strong in Dr. Seneff. She's antivaccine and anti-GMO. She is full of Dunning-Kruger, thinking that she can transfer her computer science and artificial intelligence knowledge to knowledge of epidemiology, biochemistry, and medicine. She can't.

Oh, no! GMOs are going to make everyone autistic! – Respectful Insolence

 

[houstonscott]

OMG wash you fruit and veggies, problem solved.

HS