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Now there's a man that use's his head for things other than to store a hat and hold his ears apart. Ford and Chrysler compressors with flat head is what you are looking for. Already has electric clutch that can be hooked to pressure switch. If you can work out the drive and clutch,a little 2-3 horse engine works pretty good but not capiable of as high pressure as ac compressor. Output come's from spark plug hole. I'll probably be slammed for suggesting a water heater tank but I'm prepared to support the idea with facts.

a steel tank made for air pressure is not hard to find, and in a mobile application, much preferred. water heaters are designed for a liquid, which is in-compressible and holds very little energy compared to air. the PSI rating may be ok, but its not designed for it and I would advise against it. many years in the oil industry and 10k psi certified operator have taught me that gas in a tank made for liquids can be very dangerous, even if both are not explosive like we deal with.

yes, the old york style compressors are easier as they are oiled, and do not rely on the oil in the A/C lines for lube like modern compressors.
The problem with a small engine, is you have to rethink the valve train to make it really work as you want to be filling the cylinder on each down stroke, and compressing on each up stroke. so you need a different cam / timing set up or you need to replace the valves with reed valves. 2 strokes have issues because of lubrication.
 
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a steel tank made for air pressure is not hard to find, and in a mobile application, much preferred. water heaters are designed for a liquid, which is in-compressible and holds very little energy compared to air. the PSI rating may be ok, but its not designed for it and I would advise against it. many years in the oil industry and 10k psi certified operator have taught me that gas in a tank made for liquids can be very dangerous, even if both are not explosive like we deal with.

yes, the old york style compressors are easier as they are oiled, and do not rely on the oil in the A/C lines for lube like modern compressors.
The problem with a small engine, is you have to rethink the valve train to make it really work as you want to be filling the cylinder on each down stroke, and compressing on each up stroke. so you need a different cam / timing set up or you need to replace the valves with reed valves. 2 strokes have issues because of lubrication.

OMG,an engineer with credentials! My suggestion is based on simple fact,not hypothesis キ thesis キ conjecture キ supposition キ speculation キ postulation キ postulate キ proposition キ premise キ surmise キ assumption キ presumption nor presupposition.. No engineering whatsoever required. Farmers have been pumping tires up with spark plug pumps since combustion engines were first built. I never heard of one altering the engine in any form.
 
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OMG,an engineer with credentials! My suggestion is based on simple fact,not hypothesis キ thesis キ conjecture キ supposition キ speculation キ postulation キ postulate キ proposition キ premise キ surmise キ assumption キ presumption nor presupposition.. No engineering whatsoever required. Farmers have been pumping tires up with spark plug pumps since combustion engines were first built. I never heard of one altering the engine in any form.

Diesels don’t have spark plugs :laughing::laughing:
 
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I have a couple of the York a/c air compressor setups, absolutely love them, from airing up tires to air tools in the field. I have mine set to on at 120 psi and off at 160 psi. Then regulate anything from there that needs it. Kilby was one company that had bolt in kits, but think they have sold out to another company. Air boss also had kits for dodge Cummings setups.
 
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OMG,an engineer with credentials! My suggestion is based on simple fact,not hypothesis キ thesis キ conjecture キ supposition キ speculation キ postulation キ postulate キ proposition キ premise キ surmise キ assumption キ presumption nor presupposition.. No engineering whatsoever required. Farmers have been pumping tires up with spark plug pumps since combustion engines were first built. I never heard of one altering the engine in any form.

it may work. I have not used one. only you mentioned engineer, but as an engineer i like things to work as efficiently as possible and last a long time. a 4 stroke will, obviously work like you suggest on the compression stroke, but you will be wasting the other 3 revolutions of the engine, and even then you will still have to "modify" it with a check valve. i think a 2 would work as well, but i have not messed with 2 strokes much.
 
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I have a couple of the York a/c air compressor setups, absolutely love them, from airing up tires to air tools in the field. I have mine set to on at 120 psi and off at 160 psi. Then regulate anything from there that needs it. Kilby was one company that had bolt in kits, but think they have sold out to another company. Air boss also had kits for dodge Cummings setups.

Rats, won’t work for me. I have a dodge CUMMINS :laughing:
 
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I have a Sanden AC compressor mounted on my IH Scout which has worked great for me. It is plumbed into a small air tank from a old compressor.

I have used it to run a framing nailer to build wood rail fence.
 
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