dcyrilc
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I prefer to unload it before cleaning... LOL
One hand operation of tractor ?
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I prefer to unload it before cleaning... LOL
Egon
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I may not know the difference but I do know manual steering in four wheel drive can get interesting. Now add the power steering and things may be a whole lot different.
Yep, and with four wheel drive and manual steering anyone that has perception beyond the current moment will do just fine. The rest of us mere mortals keep the thumbs where they are supposed to be and give the spinners away! Shows we know how to use them!
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the steering knob is pretty nice on my grandpas 2210 but it is mainly for mowing the grass and grading the arena. As for the moving the loader joystick, make it an easy thing to relocate whenever you need to. Just make it easy to put back to. Im sure it will take getting used to.
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Looking at my BX, It doesn't look to hard to fab up a stick to clamp on the FEL joystick to go over the hood to the other side. Can yiou fab up a left hand side attachment or have a local letal working company fab one for you?
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Now you are showing your age!!!
On a modern hydraulic cylinder driven steering system that's not a concern. I can't imagine running a modern tractor without a knob. It's the first thing I buy for a tractor, color coordinated of course.
Absolutely agree. I've jumped on tractors without a spinner....and immediately you miss it.
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Yep, and with four wheel drive and manual steering anyone that has perception beyond the current moment will do just fine. The rest of us mere mortals keep the thumbs where they are supposed to be and give the spinners away! Shows we know how to use them!
if the machine has articulating or hydrostatic steering it's a 100% non issue.
if it has power assisted mechanical steering it's less of a problem.. if it is straight mechanical steering.. then -could- be a problem.....again.. palm the spinner and it's hard to break a wrist or thumb.. foresight.. ya mean like anticipating a problem and palming the spinner instead of setting yourself up for an arm injury by gripping it or putting a thumb in the crook of the steering wheel? ah.. you are just talking about lack of common sense.. not foresight.... two different things.
someone with no common sense is just going to get hurt alot more in a given situation than another individual that has a normal dose of common sense.
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Egon
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Ah, so you can see into the future and know exactly when a problem will occur and what the problem will be??
Where was the foresight when the finger got cut??
With anticipation that would never have happened or is that an indication that like the rest of us you just have ordinary attributes and can't see into the future.
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Ah, so you can see into the future and know exactly when a problem will occur and what the problem will be??
Where was the foresight when the finger got cut??
Makes me think of the Nicolas Cage movie ( Next )
we only need a few secounds foresight, think of the possibilities, I don't know the exact layout of your machine, but GENERALLY the joystick is just a control lever to a pair of cables that run to the loader's valve block.
It seems to me that an extra long pair of cables and a temporary mount on the left side would do it ?
Your parts counter guy MIGHT be able to find a pair of similar cables from the next size up tractor, but do some measuring first in case you need an extra 3ft and he can only get you an extra 14inches (-:
I am ***_U_Ming clearances and your ability to work whatever other controls are on the left.
If you are clearing snow with a rear blade and your lift control is on the right that would probably be harder to reach and operate than the joystick.
I think I could use my joystick with the left hand right where it is, but the 3pt lift would be an issue if I was bundled up for winter and had to get past a healing right arm.
It seems to me that an extra long pair of cables and a temporary mount on the left side would do it ?
Your parts counter guy MIGHT be able to find a pair of similar cables from the next size up tractor, but do some measuring first in case you need an extra 3ft and he can only get you an extra 14inches (-:
I am ***_U_Ming clearances and your ability to work whatever other controls are on the left.
If you are clearing snow with a rear blade and your lift control is on the right that would probably be harder to reach and operate than the joystick.
I think I could use my joystick with the left hand right where it is, but the 3pt lift would be an issue if I was bundled up for winter and had to get past a healing right arm.
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Ah, so you can see into the future and know exactly when a problem will occur and what the problem will be??
Where was the foresight when the finger got cut??
future? I think uh.. you may be on the wrong forum ?
You don't need to see into the future to take precautions.
( and taking precautions doesn't prevent injuries, but sure is better than not taking precautions ).
I think your re-hash of my cut finger, which happened when i reached into my hunting bag i hadn't used in years is a poor attempt at an analogy re using a palm spinner safely on a manual steering machine.
finding delight in others problems? I think there's a problem with that line of thinking..
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Egon
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I really didn't think I was finding delight in others problems.
But your finger was a perfect example where foresight or taking precautions would have saved an owie. It did show that even the infallible may not always take all the necessary precautions for all their actions or whatever situation they find themselves in proving them mere ordinary folk like the rest of us.
But your finger was a perfect example where foresight or taking precautions would have saved an owie. It did show that even the infallible may not always take all the necessary precautions for all their actions or whatever situation they find themselves in proving them mere ordinary folk like the rest of us.
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you both need to take a chill pill......
opinions, they are like noses, everyone has one.......... lighten up.
opinions, they are like noses, everyone has one.......... lighten up.
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DITO!
I've read enough posts on here to know that you are both better than to allow yourselves to drop to that level.
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Did you see the movie "Cat Balloo" ?
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Did you see the movie "Cat Balloo" ?
Was that a "talkie"?
hee hee. No, I cannot say I ever saw it all the way through and if I did, I don't remember it. Which is strange, because I like Lee Marvin movies. It came out when I was 4, though, so that could explain why I don't remember it.
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my two cents. To the OP, if you're getting a cast I think it may be a moot issue since you can either modify the cast or let the doc know that you will need to operate a fel joystick. Well there is always the mother of necessity approach. When you get snow either the wife steps up or you two are going to be spending a few days together.
Spinner nobs. I have a tractor that the PS isn't working on, the pump is out. It also has a spinner on, and I think it's pretty useless without PS. Or should I say power assist. But if the PS is working it sure makes life better. Now I learned to drive the tractor with my hands on the outside of the wheel. It's not a conscious thing, it comes second nature. Also after using the tractor for almost 10 years now I sometimes even use "SECOND" gear. I do things slow when working with the tractor.
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Spinner nobs. I have a tractor that the PS isn't working on, the pump is out. It also has a spinner on, and I think it's pretty useless without PS. Or should I say power assist. But if the PS is working it sure makes life better. Now I learned to drive the tractor with my hands on the outside of the wheel. It's not a conscious thing, it comes second nature. Also after using the tractor for almost 10 years now I sometimes even use "SECOND" gear.
I do things slow when working with the tractor.Wedge
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My little PT425 is articulated. I have a spinner knob. The steering is pretty stiff. I don't think I could use my palm to steer it. However, as you mentioned, its kind of a non-issue. I wonder.... with it being articulated, if the wheel would even move in response to a force that is strong enough to shove the steering rams around? I'd probably get the teeth jolted out of my head with such a collision.
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Well I've been seeing this topic stay alive longer than I thought it would so I decided to take a look, now I see there has been a little fireworks
Anyway I've got an old Ford 1700 manual steer was thinking about putting on a spinner I've had kicking around for years, couldn't find it when I looked for it.
Right around the same time I'm out just fooling around in the woods when the front tire caught a little low 10" diameter stump, I was going slow and saw it coming kinda knew what might happen so I must of loosened my grip, Man that wheel spun so fast to the full left stop!!! not sure how many revs but I was thinking maybe that spinner is better off lost.
Like with that stump the same thing could happen with a rock or a varmit hole etc.
Anyway I've got an old Ford 1700 manual steer was thinking about putting on a spinner I've had kicking around for years, couldn't find it when I looked for it.
Right around the same time I'm out just fooling around in the woods when the front tire caught a little low 10" diameter stump, I was going slow and saw it coming kinda knew what might happen so I must of loosened my grip, Man that wheel spun so fast to the full left stop!!! not sure how many revs but I was thinking maybe that spinner is better off lost.
Like with that stump the same thing could happen with a rock or a varmit hole etc.
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My little PT425 is articulated. I have a spinner knob. The steering is pretty stiff. I don't think I could use my palm to steer it. However, as you mentioned, its kind of a non-issue. I wonder.... with it being articulated, if the wheel would even move in response to a force that is strong enough to shove the steering rams around? I'd probably get the teeth jolted out of my head with such a collision.
for the steering rams to be shoved around, a rod would have to bend, or a line would have to blow, or a spool would have to fail, or any other relief or check that might be inthat line.
in any of those cases.. it's likely you have an orbital or some other from on non direct coupling from steering mechanism to wheel.. which is why I said that a articulated or hydrostatically steered machine wouldn't be an issue.
On a mahcine with some form of direct like from a wheel to hand.. then I'd keep arms, hands and thumbs out of the spokes...
I guess I'm used to stiff steering having a bunch of 2wd mahcines with mechanical steering boxes, and front end loaders. between the various hyd controls, gear shifts, and other controlls, being able to use one of those machines virtualy demands use of a spinner. so far I havn't had a problem palming a spinner while moving at medium speeds or better.. at any lower speeds.. like creeper gears where it's harder to steer.. then better contact is needed.. but then wheel slap is pretty much a non issue then too.. so it all seems to work out in the ballance.
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