Online Buying vs Brick & Mortar.

   / Online Buying vs Brick & Mortar. #41  
I have slowed down on the Amazon stuff due to counterfeit, misleading product pages and low quality.

we got a fake SD card and that was annoying. Packaging looked legit. Seller all looked good but it was junk
 
   / Online Buying vs Brick & Mortar. #42  
I have slowed down on the Amazon stuff due to counterfeit, misleading product pages and low quality.

we got a fake SD card and that was annoying. Packaging looked legit. Seller all looked good but it was junk
Amazon has the easiest and most permissive return policy of any company I’ve dealt with.
 
   / Online Buying vs Brick & Mortar. #43  
Amazon has the easiest and most permissive return policy of any company I’ve dealt with.

Yes and no. For $125 tires they wanted $75 to return it due to mis listing

Bearing they refunded money but let me keep it.

Sd card was a pain to return
 
   / Online Buying vs Brick & Mortar. #44  
Yes and no. For $125 tires they wanted $75 to return it due to mis listing

Bearing they refunded money but let me keep it.

Sd card was a pain to return
depends on the seller. If sold direct from Amazon, usually very easy. If a 3rd party seller, then it's up to the seller.
I bought a pole saw on amazon, when box came, it was already open, part was missing. Was a 3rd party, they said I had to pay for return. It got shipped by UPS, so I contacted UPS and said I refuse delivery of an already opened package, so UPS came and returned it.
But lots of counterfeit items on amazon, some hard to tell. I suspect the latest oil filter i bought might be counterfeit.
One recent amazon return, they said don't even bother sending it back, they just refunded my money.
 
   / Online Buying vs Brick & Mortar. #45  
Between me, my wife, and my business, Amazon is delivering about $40k of stuff to my house every year. I have done literally countless returns with them over the years, and there have been very, very, very few of them that were not handled 100% to my satisfaction. Yes, you can find exceptions to anything, but in the case of Amazon returns, they are overwhelmingly and consistently better than nearly any other retailer I have ever dealt with.
 
   / Online Buying vs Brick & Mortar. #46  
I went through the buy on-line thing after guys in a medium city wouldn't cut me a deal on $17,000 worth of woodworking machinery 25 years ago. They wanted retail and nothing else despite my explaining I could buy by mail for $13,000. I was willing to split the difference to keep it local. Imagine that--but owner refused.

So I bought mail-order and began to buy anything I could that was available that way. It worked great and I did it that until a few years ago when I started buying more things from smaller dealers. I still buy on-line--but try not to.

The Lowe's appliance thing is a no-brainer and the local hardware store has anything you can think of--if they can find it. So I buy other stuff from him too--at slightly higher prices--to keep him in business.


Workboots I get at an Amish place that is good as gold. I have odd feet and need extra attention. They take the time, order and fit for handmade if need be. One pair of handmade boots just wouldn't work for me so I cleaned up--when nearly new--took back and asked him if he could sell and we split the $$. He tried to give me ALL my $$ back but I refused but took 3/4 because he insisted. Even buying custom boots that are sold mail order I buy from them because they know the nuances of what fits and what doesn't. It's cheap money to me. It saves me in the long run.



On tires, I buy where I get farm tires. He gives me great prices and gives excellent trade-in on used ones. Now I buy other tires from him too. I'll soon need truck tires so will call him, ask him to order what I think I want and ask for his advice. I learned the same brand makes a newer version with longer tread wear and I told him to order those. He will price fairly, do an excellent job, warranty beyond expectation and treat me right. I didn't even ask the price because he will treat me right. So I help him stay in business for my own self-interest.

Some things are more than just the best price and you have to weigh availability, price, service, convenience, etc. I try to buy local from smaller dealers, if I can, so they stay in business, buy MY products and keep the community the kind of place where I want to live, have friends, grow my garden and take community tractor drives. 🚜
 
   / Online Buying vs Brick & Mortar. #47  
Yes and no. For $125 tires they wanted $75 to return it due to mis listing

Bearing they refunded money but let me keep it.

Sd card was a pain to return
Adorama and/or B & H photo video are pretty good about stocking authentic memory cards.

My wife's employer bought a bunch of promotional USB sticks with their name on them to give away. Those things probably ending up hurting them because every one I tried ended up with corrupted files.
 
   / Online Buying vs Brick & Mortar. #48  
Lowes does it again. I can't find what I want in their store, so I go to their website. I'm looking for some metal face plates with a little star at each corner. I bought a bunch of them in the store years ago, but now it's hit or miss if they have any, and then it's just one or two, and this time, not what I wanted.

They had them in three different stores, so I ordered them online and got free delivery. They will be here on Tuesday.

It's getting harder to go to the store when you never know if it will be in stock or not.

I just wish they would deliver lumber and sacks of concrete for free!!!!
 
   / Online Buying vs Brick & Mortar. #49  
Lowes does it again. I can't find what I want in their store, so I go to their website. I'm looking for some metal face plates with a little star at each corner. I bought a bunch of them in the store years ago, but now it's hit or miss if they have any, and then it's just one or two, and this time, not what I wanted.

They had them in three different stores, so I ordered them online and got free delivery. They will be here on Tuesday.

It's getting harder to go to the store when you never know if it will be in stock or not.

I just wish they would deliver lumber and sacks of concrete for free!!!!
I would settle for having it ready for pick up. In the interim, I use the online store to find the aisle and bin number as it is usually faster and more accurate than flagging down an employee.

I don't do "pick up" for lumber because I found that I need to Q/C each stick, and then go back in for however many are split, too much wane, etc.

Both of my "local" big box store quit supplying salt for water softeners. I used to buy from one because I could get a pallet discount, and then stock up on other items at the same time. Rather like grocery stores selling eggs and milk at a low price to get you into the store. I ended up buying the entire stock of an Ace nearby (nine bags...), but the bags had a manufactured on date of 2021, and looked like they had been stored outside since, so I am not sure that will be repeated. One handle already tore out when I was loading them.

It is a process. Like @sixdogs, I try to patronize the locals when I can, but the $17k woodworking story has happened to me countless times. I find it odd that retailers are so willing to cut their noses off to spite their faces. I don't ask for the online price, just something in between. The really galling ones are where it isn't in stock, so they have to order it, and they aren't willing to work with me. It isn't as if they have capital tied up in inventory, and I'm helping bump their purchase volumes up for their own discounts. It just makes no sense.

Rant over.

It is what it is, and I try to do right by the folks who are doing right, and have to leave it at that.

All the best,

Peter
 
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   / Online Buying vs Brick & Mortar. #50  
I would settle for having it ready for pick up. In the interim, I use the online store to find the aisle and bin number as it is usually faster and more accurate than flagging down an employee.

I don't do "pick up" for lumber because I found that I need to Q/C each stick, and then go back in for however many are split, too much wane, etc.

Both of my "local" big box store quit supplying salt for water softeners. I used to buy from one because I could get a pallet discount, and then stock up on other items at the same time. Rather like grocery stores selling eggs and milk at a low price to get you into the store. I ended up buying the entire stock of an Ace nearby (nine bags...), but the bags had a manufactured on date of 2021, and looked like they had been stored outside since, so I am not sure that will be repeated. One handle already tore out when I was loading them.

It is a process. Like @sixdogs, I try to patronize the locals when I can, but the $17k woodworking story has happened to me countless times. I find it odd that retailers are so willing to cut their noses off to spite their faces. I don't ask for the online price, just something in between. The really galling ones are where it isn't in stock, so they have to order it, and they aren't willing to work with me. It isn't as if they have capital tied up in inventory, and I'm helping bump their purchase volumes up for their own discounts. It just makes no sense.

Rant over.

It is what it is, and I try to do right by the folks who are doing right, and have to leave it at that.

All the best,

Peter
Take heart...
Money goes where it's treated best and money eventually returns to its rightful owners. Short sighted merchants eventually become former merchants.
 

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