Online source for 1/2 inch steel hard line

[CalG]

It seems I live in an industrial desert here in S, Vt. I have not been able to locate a supplier for 1/2 inch steel hydraulic tubing within 60 miles. (there must be one, but where?)

Saw an Ebay listing for 3/8th line, and followed the sellers page, but no 1/2 inch shown.

I would buy the full 20 ft length cut into 2 6' lengths, a 5' and a 3'. to Go UPS

Suggestions?

 

[MtnViewRanch]

These guys have it. http://www.hydraulicstore.com/tubingsteel.html Call them on Monday and std UPS will have it to you on Friday.

 

[CalG]

I saw that page, but the "Truck only" 20 foot length turned me away. A look at the pricing page suggests "cut lengths", and even discounts the price for lengths over 19 feet. Hmm No cutting fee?

Sounds like a phone call and a request to cut into shippable lengths is in order.

Thanks

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I saw that page, but the "Truck only" 20 foot length turned me away. A look at the pricing page suggests "cut lengths", and even discounts the price for lengths over 19 feet. Hmm No cutting fee?

Sounds like a phone call and a request to cut into shippable lengths is in order.

Thanks

They will cut and ship UPS. If there is a cutting fee, I'm not sure. :confused3: They are open on Saturday mornings, but I think only one person comes in.

 

[Tractor Seabee]

Ordering on line is dicey. Make sure you are getting 1/2" OD tube not 1/2" nominal pipe size, that is 5/8" OD. Any hydraulic supply place should have it. They sell by the foot and no shipping cost. Amazon may have a free shipping supplier. If you need to bend it have the hydraulic shop do it. That is not a good DYI task unless you have all the right tools. Same with flaring, most applications a double flare is better and will take vibration better.

Ron

 

[CalG]

Tractor SeaBee

Your comments are well taken. It's true that pipe and tube are different, but I would hope that a place with a name like "hydraulic store" would know the difference.

If Google doen't turn up an Amazon supplier, what might be a useful search method?

"Any Hydraulic supply", just doesn't seem to fit my local area. The available outlets are truck and equipment repair shops that specialize in hydraulic hoses and fittings. As posted, "I'm sure there is a source nearby, but where?"

Bending and flaring is no problem (up to 1/2 inch anyway) I worked aviation HVAC for over 10 years and have hand bent and hand flared hundreds of new and replacement tubes. All in SS.

Any way , I'm not worried. '
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Also, "double flare" for JIC fittings? never seen it. I do plan to secure the short tubes I require to combat the ill effects of vibration fatigue.

Hydraulics are supposed to be simple enough a wood cutter can do it. (Nothing taken from those pros who work in the woods!)

Cheers

ps a quick Amazon search returns 3/8th fuel line or 2 inch seamless. Close!

 

[BukitCase]

My local steel supplier got it for me, they had to have it sent in from another supplier and it was STILL cheaper than my (sorta) local "hydraulic store", who wouldn't special order it and had NONE til they placed their next REGULAR order. #*&^$*&^#%

I only have a small car that's roadable at the moment, so I took my "meth habit enhancement tool", er, I mean Battery cutoff tool, and cut each stick into 2 8' and a 4' in their parking lot (they DO charge a cut fee), dropped the back seat and ran it diagonally into the passenger compartment.

I worked industrial instrumentation for 35 years before retiring, so I understand that you have the rest of the situation covered :thumbsup:

Anyway, if you have a steel supplier near you you might wanna give 'em a call and ask if they carry, OR CAN GET, hydraulic tubing. Good luck... Steve

 

[Burtonbr]

I've ordered some 3/8" tubing from McMaster-Carr

I think this is a link direct to the steel tubing. McMaster-Carr

It's at the bottom of that page, priced in 3' & 6' lengths

 

[Tractor Seabee]

Tractor SeaBee

Your comments are well taken. It's true that pipe and tube are different, but I would hope that a place with a name like "hydraulic store" would know the difference.

If Google doen't turn up an Amazon supplier, what might be a useful search method?

"Any Hydraulic supply", just doesn't seem to fit my local area. The available outlets are truck and equipment repair shops that specialize in hydraulic hoses and fittings. As posted, "I'm sure there is a source nearby, but where?"

Bending and flaring is no problem (up to 1/2 inch anyway) I worked aviation HVAC for over 10 years and have hand bent and hand flared hundreds of new and replacement tubes. All in SS.

Any way , I'm not worried. '
'
Also, "double flare" for JIC fittings? never seen it. I do plan to secure the short tubes I require to combat the ill effects of vibration fatigue.

Hydraulics are supposed to be simple enough a wood cutter can do it. (Nothing taken from those pros who work in the woods!)

Cheers

ps a quick Amazon search returns 3/8th fuel line or 2 inch seamless. Close!

Fuel line will not withstand 2000+ PSI hydraulic pressures, it is designed for low pressures. Also JIC flares are different angle than HVAC. HVAC is 45 degree, that was my trade also and I still have all the tubing tools. We did steel tube on ammonia plants but they only have a 500 PSI test pressure I do not remember the angle, maybe JJ will chime in with the answer. Hyd tube cannot be bent by hand as for as I know. I believe it takes either a gear or hydraulic bender. Most of the SS tube I worked with on Industrial Instruments was fully annealed so worked easy. Again look at the pressure rating. Hard SS did not bend easy especially when you get to 1/2". What is your GPM? My tractor is 8 GPM and most of the tube and hose is 3/8" Max.

Ron

 

[CalG]

Ron

Aviation is aviation, commercial HVAC has little to do with it. "Freon" or amonia systems are irrelevant, at 35000 feet, cooling by expansion is not needed, just pipe in outside air. That is if you don't need to heat it by compression first ;-) Have you ever used second stage bleed to pressurize a cabin?

Flare angle has become somewhat "universal" for industrial hydraulics. that is, 37 or 45 degree flares can be "formed in place" for 3000 psi systems as long as they are of good quality to begin with. I'll stick with my "roll-air" flaring tools Imperial 45 degree Rol-Air Flaring Tools ,Imperial Eastman.

1/2 inch soft steel or SS can be formed readily with hand tools 564-FH and 564-FHT Lever Type Heavy-Duty Tube Benders | Imperial Tools

With one of those in the tool kit, there is no need to worry if the tubing comes in soft..

Fully annealed is a world of goodness!

GPM?

well. 11 cc's per rev, thats about ,7 cu. inches per, certainly not more than 8 gpm at any engine rpm. but ... I need to match ( close any way) the present 12 mm tubing. 1/2 inch is the only logical choice.

Of course fuel ine is not acceptable, I mention it as the Amazon offering, nothing more.