Opinions on B7500HSD - please

[FarmNut]

It's a 2001, 242 hrs, belly mower for $8,500. Bucket is an extra $3,000. I'm going to try to get them to throw the bucket into the price and get it for $8,000.

I'll also try to get them to agree that if once they put the bucket on the front and I don't like the way it works, they'll take it back within 30 days or something - who knows if they'll go for that.

Good luck with that. I doubt you'll be able get the price down that much given what they are asking. If the bucket (FEL) is new, and they have to add the valve assembly, $3,000 is close to what you'd expect to have to pay. I would think somewhere a little under $10K would be a fair price for what you are looking at.

 

[tommyz270]

Dillo 99 - That's good information. Actually, I'm kind of looking between the 7500 and possibly a bx24 because after the road is down, the times I'll use it may be less than what I need the 7500 for.

Do you have any more information on the difference between your 7500 and your neighbor's bx24?

Does anyone know any major differences and have any experience using both? Of course, I assume the 7500 will do more work easier, but is there really a noticable difference other than the size? Is there a major difference in weight they can carry, the way they dig and grade?

I understand the obvious - trying to get comments from people who have experienced both to get a better idea from your experience instead of a sales guy.

Thanks

 

[LBrown59]

Hard to cover it all with 1 tractor .
2 is easier
3 even easier.

 

[IKE76]

Tommy: I traded my 7500 in last summer for a 2910.The only reason I traded was for more lift capacity on the loader.I had just under 1000 hours on the 7500 and never had any problems with it.I ran a 52" woods tiller, a 60" box blade and a 72" back blade fine.As someone else said earlier, it was a fuel miser.I could mow all day with the 60" belly mower at full throttle and not use a full tank of fuel.With teeth on the bucket, I think you could dig to China.When I traded it, I got just under 10,000 for it.I think you will be happy with it.

 

[dillo99]

Dillo 99 - That's good information. Actually, I'm kind of looking between the 7500 and possibly a bx24 because after the road is down, the times I'll use it may be less than what I need the 7500 for.

Do you have any more information on the difference between your 7500 and your neighbor's bx24?

Well for me, the ground clearance was very important. I have 27 acres, all wooded, and I am out there a lot. When I purchased it I was considering a BX but the dealer talked me out of it primarily due to the ground clearance. As for Horsepower, like I said above the BX24 technically has more horsepower but that is deceiving. Some quick comparisons of power:

First number = b7500, followed by bx24 number in ( )
Engine displacement 61.1 cu in (54.8)
3ph lift - 24 inches back 1058 lbs (670lbs)
loader lift capacity - 500mm fwd 555lbs (518lbs)
Breakout force - 500mm fwd 1120lbs (992lbs)

So...straight horsepower isn't everything. A lot of factors in the design of the engine, drive train and other factors make a big difference. I also don't quite understand the variances in RPM's that are used when measuring HP. For example, the bx24 is listed by Kubota as having 23HP at 3200RPM. The B7500 is listed as having 21HP at 2600RPM. Doesn't seem like a fair comparison. Bottom line is that many manufacturers know that HP sells so they like to show higher hp numbers (in my opinion).

Anyway - the BX is a very nice machine too - don't get me wrong. You just have to decide what model best meets your needs and interests. In general, get as much power as you can afford but make sure you understand what that means and balance other factors like size, maneuverability, efficiency, etc. Personally, I have never regretted my choice but if I had a different Kubota I would probably feel the same!

Good Luck and enjoy!

 

[argeaux]

A B7500 (without HST) with 250 hours and a FEL went for $8700 at an estate auction in Arkansas a few weeks ago.

 

[jas67]

First number = b7500, followed by bx24 number in ( )
Engine displacement 61.1 cu in (54.8)

....I also don't quite understand the variances in RPM's that are used when measuring HP. For example, the bx24 is listed by Kubota as having 23HP at 3200RPM. The B7500 is listed as having 21HP at 2600RPM. Doesn't seem like a fair comparison.
Good Luck and enjoy!

The larger displacement engine in the b7500 makes more torque.
HP = torque * RPM.

You can get the same HP from a smaller engine at a higher RPM. My G1800 has D662 engine that makes 16 HP @ 3200, and is approx 662 CC. My B7100 has a D750AH engine of approx 750 CC displacement, and makes 16 HP @ 2800 RPM.

The B7500 makes 44 lb*ft of torque at its rated 2600 RPM, while the BX24 only makes 41 lb*ft at its rated 3200 RPM.

The lower RPM engine in the B7500 will less stressed than the one in the BX24, and could, theoretically last longer, although, I'm sure both are very well engineered, and will last a very long time with proper maintenance.

 

[dillo99]

Thanks Jas - good explanation.

 

[don716]

I have a B7500 and love it.It's done everything I've asked it to.Here is some pics.

 

[Steveshow]

Last week my dad bought a used 05 B7500 with factory FEL and 150 hrs for $8500 from Lanford Equip. in Austin. I runs and looks likenew. He has 4 acres of St Augaustine that he will be mowing with a 5 ft 3pt finish mower. So far he hasn't mowed with it, but seeing as the B7500 is replacing a Cub Lo Boy 154 w/ 15 hp and 5 ft mower, which replaced a Farmall Cub with 9 hp and a 4 ft belly mower, the 21 hp of the Kubota shold do well. I used the FEL to fill in a hole that we dug years ago for trash after it was burnt, before we had trash pickup. The dirt was pretty well packed, I had the 4x4 engaged and rear diff locked, but IMO it needs some front suitcase weights and rear wheel weights. It wanted to spin the wheels while tying to load the FEL. Granted, I am used to using a MF 2200 with a 5 ft FEL, double the weight and HP (Perkins 3.152). The B7500 seems like a nice, all around tractor, which is why dad went with something smaller than what I have. He has a lot of Oak trees and keeps his whole place mowed like a golf course. My 3/4 of my 4 1/2 acres is pasture with no trees that I mow with a shredder twice a year. I buy and part out old Chevy trucks and mainly bought my MF with FEL to load car parts and inop vehicles onto trailers.