"Our" 5030 - thanks to all at TBN for your help!

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CT_Tree_Guy

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\"Our\" 5030 - thanks to all at TBN for your help!

This post has been a long time coming. I've been coming to TBN for close to 2 years, and would classify myself as an "Elite Lurker" because I've easily read 2,500 posts, maybe more. I guess I never registered until now because you've all covered every question I could possibly dream up with your 500,000+ posts. (Plus, all I seem to have time for is work and sleep!)

I just wanted to say thank you very much for all of your help and generosity in sharing all of your experiences and knowledge. This is an amazing site with a lot of great people, and you helped me buy a machine (5030HST) about which I have no regrets whatsoever. I've been using it in my tree business for over a year now, and I can't think of a single time that I said to myself, "if only i had gotten such-and-such ...".

It has lived up to, and exceeded, all of my hopes and expectations, and made my work so much easier and more profitable that I am wondering how I did without it for so long.

You've all helped so much with so many questions - cab/no cab, turfs/ags/r4's, remotes, fill the tires or not, hydro, shuttle or gear, quick-attach or not, skid plates, tractor safety, winter operation, oils, greases, grapples .... you name it, you guys helped me with it. Thanks so much.

She's a tree-haulin' beast - 6' Bradco brush grapple on the 853 loader and an Implemax grapple on the back for grabbing logs, brush, branches and whole trees. The rear grapple is operated by a joystick controlling 3 hydraulic solenoids, and a toggle switch on the loader knob does the front grapple. (Hydraulics masterfully installed by Bob Wolff at Woodbury (CT) Tractor). The front grapple will pick up an 18" diam. 10 1/2 foot long oak log like it's a toothpick, and the 800 lb. grapple on the back balances the machine very nicely. If I have to max out the loader, I can grab a log with the rear grapple to keep things balanced. Never filled the tires, and glad of it. She's as light or heavy as she needs to be. The trees don't stand a chance any more /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I think I read just about every single post there ever was about tires, and ended up buying a set of Glennmac/MChalkley Specials - 19.5 x 24 wide Michelin XM27's for the rear, 11 x 16's for the front. No interference anywhere, I guess the 5030's frame is a little roomier than the 4610's. And I'll be sure to let you all know how I like them as soon as I put them to use! I got the tractor with Titan turfs for working on manicured lawns, thinking I'd need the XM27's as soon as the going got tough, but so far I haven't! The turfs have been amazing - in the woods, on soft lawns, hills, most everything I've needed them to do for 530 hours. (Bought the tractor in April '04 - she's been working). I'm still very new to tractoring though, and I have a strong hunch I don't know what I'm missing with the turfs for when the going gets bad. I would have tried the Michelins out by now, but WHO KNEW they wouldn't fit between the fenders of my trailer? Anyone have a nice 18' 4 1/2-ton deck-over for sale? /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Anyway, more to come I'm sure, as I'm deeply in love with my tractor and love to talk about it /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

At the risk of leaving anyone out, in addition to the "Tire Meisters" Mark and Glenn, I want to specifically thank Bird, Henro ("Topic: When is a tractor not really a tractor?" - keep it coming, I love it /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif), 5030 (let's talk about hydraulic oil coolers), Jinman, MossRoad, Junkman, RaT (1150 loaders, mmmmmm), CowboyDoc, PineRidge, Egon, KiotiJohn (hey, your tractor's orange and that's good enough for me) /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif, Gordon, John Miller, Harv (you and Jinman are gentlemen among gentlemen), Slowzuki, JerryG, Soundguy, Bob Skurka, RBargeron (I want a 5450!) , Ron J Hall, TxDon (go 5030's!), YooperDave and Jim Morrissey for all of your excellent posts.
(Again, sorry if I left someone out - if so, you know who you are, and please pat yourself on the back) /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif


Your collective wit, humor and knowledge, and the generous way in which you share it, has improved my life immensely. In addition to thanking you from the bottom of my heart, I'd like to do my best to give something back to this great forum. Feel free to ask me any questions you might have about tree work, chainsaws, or chainsaw sharpening, which is a passion of mine.

And here's one last happy thought: I bet that for every person like me that you have all helped so much, there are probably hundreds more that you will never know about. Well done all, and in conclusion: THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!

John DeHuff
Collinsville Tree Service
Collinsville, CT
collinsvilletree@sbcglobal.net
 
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Wow!!Excellent post!!

I would like to know what your tree service is? Do you have a bucket truck, stump grinder, and chipper type of service or it sounds like a lumber type where you are skidding logs. Maybe a portable saw mill? Maybe just clean up's of overgrown fields and such.

Do you do any brush hogging with the 5030?
 
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Hello John - It's pretty nice when someone of your intelligence and bandwidth posts such a thoughtful recognition of the huge experience pool here. There are many electronic communities these days - but TBN has always been a place where solid people with valuable experience offer the benefit of it to others. Acknowledgement of it floats all the boats a little higher too. Take care, and be sure not to get that 5030 dirty - Dick B
 
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dknard: I've been in the tree business for 15 years now and 99% of the work is residential tree removal. Since we do mostly removals, I've never taken the plunge on a bucket truck. If we did a lot of trimming, I would want one. We just fell, climb and lower branches with rigging. What I'd really like is a big crane - workin' on it.

The 5030 is used mainly to eliminate brush dragging, feed the chipper and get logs loaded onto trucks.

I'm also now picking up logs for other tree guys who have no way of getting them out of tight spots/backyards, and thanks to the turf tires it can be done with virtually no damage to lawns.

We don't really do logging per se, but I've just acquired a GMC tri-axle log truck and this winter I'll be doing a lot of larger scale felling of timber trees with no cleanup involved - "residential logging", I call it. The tractor will get the logs to the log truck - it goes great in the snow with chains on the turfs.

I farm out all of my stump grinding to one or two guys who do only that so I can concentrate on the removals.

And no, I haven't done any brush-hogging at all yet - the rear grapple hasn't come off once in a year and a half, we're too busy doing what we do. But I bet the 5030 would kick some brush butt, I can't wait to try it out!

Take care, John
 
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Hi Dick, it's nice to finally meet you. I've read a heck of a lot of your posts, and your experiences with your 5450 really helped me figure out what size machine I wanted. I wish my tractor had your loader on it - still wondering how much more my front axle can really take. I have a feeling I'm pretty much working it as hard as I should, especially when the rear end gets light and the front axle is carrying the entire load /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

I'm thinking of giving the loader a little more ooomph by eliminating the quick-attach, thereby getting rid of its own weight and moving the grapple closer to the loader arms.

But boy, that 5450 sure sounds like a tank. (I forget if you still have it? ...) Sure would be nice if the next generation of Grand L's offered that type of frame with an 1150 loader, imagine that tractor with hydro.

And I'm afraid I have gotten her a little dirty, but I think I'll keep her anyway /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Take care, John D.
 
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CT... Sounds like an interesting business. Until recently my nephew was doing that in Washington DC, he just moved to S. Carolina and wants to start his own business. In the city he said there were times when they were not allowed to let any part of the tree touch the grass so he had to cut and lower hand manageable sizes to hump them out of back yards.

Interesting tractor use story:)
 
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Hi John, nice post and I am sure you have expressed what has keeps many of us returning to the TBN community. Looks like you are also hooked on this “tractor ****”, as my wife calls it, and will be around for awhile.

Is there a chance you can post a photo of your rig. I would like to see the rear grapple set up you are using.

MarkV
 
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Hi Mark -

I'll be posting some pics ASAP - I can't believe I didn't have any really nice pics on my computer, but I'll take some today showing the front and rear grapples, and the joystick setup.

I love the "tractor ****" comment - and speaking of that, since the 5030 doesn't have a cab or canopy, she'll be appearing "topless" - woo-hoo /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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DK:

That reminds me all too well of how we used to kill ourselves dragging brush and loading logs onto trucks by hand - ouch. You might encourage your nephew to get ANY kind of machine to move material, it doesn't have to be fancy to be better than doing it by hand. I just read that a human being can produce only about .1 HP. Doesn't take much of a machine to beat that! My eyes were opened one time when a customer dragged some of our brush for us using a Kawasaki quad - I was amazed at how much it helped out.

And if he does tree climbing, please ask him for me to use TWO means of personal support at all times, either two buckstraps, or working off his climbing rope with one buckstrap around the tree. Stuff breaks!
 
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Hi John - yes I still have the L5450 and it is indeed a rugged rig. In today's market, whether blue, green, red or orange, the trend is not to put that much beef into a compact tractor anymore. I don't use its full capability very often - but it sure brings a smile on those occasions when more grunt is in order. You are right that hydro would be a nice feature. I always wanted the predictable speed of gear drive for orchard sprayer calibration - but now that the orchard is in the woodpile hydro would be cushy /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

I notice that Kubota offers 1150-kg (2500 lb) loaders on the L48 and the new M5040, M6040 and M7040. For the L30 machines, an 1150 loader would be a big jump from the 853.

Short of increasing relief pressure or cylinder size, loader performance is pretty fixed. Moving the attachment point back a couple inches will help, but only by the fraction of the horizontal distance to the pin point on the frame.

Take care,
Dick B
 

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