Our new 5105M

Zebrafive · Mar 3, 2012

Congrat's! Beautiful machine.
Check you owners manual for turbo cautions. Mine says improper starting and shutdown is what causes the most damage. One place says to idle 30 seconds to cool the turbo, another 1-2 minutes.

Tul01 · Mar 3, 2012

Thanks guys its very exciting. I've been real careful of letting everything warm up and cool down. I was nervous this morning, firing it up to push snow, it was -20C and the power had gone out to my shed overnight, so there was no block heater. Used the preheater and it started easily enough although it wasn't real smooth for a few seconds

. Probably wasn't recommended but we had a storm overnight and really needed to get going.

As far as options, we didn't spec it out too much, loader, stereo, cold weather package, loaded tires.

So far very impressed with the power and speed of the unit and hydraulics got 20hrs pushing snow in the last week. Seems to be pretty decent on fuel too at this point. So far anyway. Seems to me, about 2 gallons/hr.

Zebrafive · Mar 3, 2012

Glad to hear it started right up! :thumbsup: At first I thought I read -20 BRR! then saw the "C" What would that be in "F"? -4 F ?

Bigfoot62 · Mar 4, 2012

Tul01 said:
After looking around for a few months, including several brands with local dealers, and lots of help from TBN, we ordered and picked up our new 5105M with 563 loader. I grew up with all JD and its nice to be back into them. The peace of mind is well worth it. First turbo tractor we've had an still a little nervous of that, always tried to use the KISS principle. . .

You're gonna love this tractor! :thumbsup:

Don't sweat the turbo. It's real simple. Always warm up the engine, and a minute is plenty. (I do this on ALL engines, not just the ones with blowers) Always idle for a minute or two before shutting down, IF the engine has been working. It's not necessary if it just ran for a few seconds. (like if you raised the FEL to grease it, etc) The purpose is also very simple: The turbo bearings do not stand in oil. It has to be pumped up there. (as well as to the rest of the "top end" of the engine) Allowing the engine to idle for a bit before shutting it off, lets the turbo housing and bearings cool down. That way, it doesn't "cook" the oil that's in the turbo.

Fuel usage will vary, depending on load and engine speed. With about 300 hours on the clock of my 5085M, I can say that it runs between 1.25 and 1.75 gallons/hour. With 20 more horses, yours will burn a little more, but it should still be great for a tractor of that size and hp. When using PTO-powered equipment, I run in the 540E setting, except with the hay baler.

JohnDeere4300 · Mar 4, 2012

Congratulations on your new 5105M!!!:thumbsup:... That is a great lookin' tractor!

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Zebrafive · Mar 4, 2012

Bigfoot62 said:
You're gonna love this tractor! :thumbsup:

Don't sweat the turbo. It's real simple. Always warm up the engine, and a minute is plenty. (I do this on ALL engines, not just the ones with blowers) Always idle for a minute or two before shutting down, IF the engine has been working. It's not necessary if it just ran for a few seconds. (like if you raised the FEL to grease it, etc) The purpose is also very simple: The turbo bearings do not stand in oil. It has to be pumped up there. (as well as to the rest of the "top end" of the engine) Allowing the engine to idle for a bit before shutting it off, lets the turbo housing and bearings cool down. That way, it doesn't "cook" the oil that's in the turbo.

Fuel usage will vary, depending on load and engine speed. With about 300 hours on the clock of my 5085M, I can say that it runs between 1.25 and 1.75 gallons/hour. With 20 more horses, yours will burn a little more, but it should still be great for a tractor of that size and hp. When using PTO-powered equipment, I run in the 540E setting, except with the hay baler.

You explained the turbo shutdown very well. I always warm my engines before working them, but the 1-2 minute idle at shutdown was new to me. I was only idling for maybe 30-45 seconds then shuting down before I got a turbo tractor. I have to remind myself everytime, let it idle longer.

Bob77064 · Mar 4, 2012

Tul01 said:
After looking around for a few months, including several brands with local dealers, and lots of help from TBN, we ordered and picked up our new 5105M with 563 loader. I grew up with all JD and its nice to be back into them. The peace of mind is well worth it. First turbo tractor we've had an still a little nervous of that, always tried to use the KISS principle. Had to modify the boxblade a little and took the opportunity to weld some hooks on the bucket. Looking forward to years of service now this one should be big enough to satisfy all our needs.

Brent

Congrats looks great.

Edward. S · Mar 4, 2012

Bigfoot62 said:
You're gonna love this tractor! :thumbsup:

Don't sweat the turbo. It's real simple. Always warm up the engine, and a minute is plenty. (I do this on ALL engines, not just the ones with blowers) Always idle for a minute or two before shutting down, IF the engine has been working. It's not necessary if it just ran for a few seconds. (like if you raised the FEL to grease it, etc) The purpose is also very simple: The turbo bearings do not stand in oil. It has to be pumped up there. (as well as to the rest of the "top end" of the engine) Allowing the engine to idle for a bit before shutting it off, lets the turbo housing and bearings cool down. That way, it doesn't "cook" the oil that's in the turbo.

Fuel usage will vary, depending on load and engine speed. With about 300 hours on the clock of my 5085M, I can say that it runs between 1.25 and 1.75 gallons/hour. With 20 more horses, yours will burn a little more, but it should still be great for a tractor of that size and hp. When using PTO-powered equipment, I run in the 540E setting, except with the hay baler.

The 5105M uses a different engine than the 5085 and 5095, The 5105M uses a Powertech E while the 5085M and 5095M uses a Powertech M. It may be a little different.

wmonroe · Mar 4, 2012

Congrats on the new tractor, it is a beauty.

Bigfoot62 · Mar 4, 2012

Edward. S said:
The 5105M uses a different engine than the 5085 and 5095, The 5105M uses a Powertech E while the 5085M and 5095M uses a Powertech M. It may be a little different.

Edward,

Could be a different engine, but it's still got a blower. That blower has oil running through it. Same principal applies. One of my previous tractors, a NH 7610S, had a decal on the dash that read something like: "Idle engine for one minute before shutting down." I grew up running heavy equipment. It doesn't matter if it's a farm tractor, a large piece of construction machinery, one of my PowerStroke pickups, or my Kenworth, they all get to idle for a minute or two before shutting down.

If you've ever operated an engine that had a pyrometer on the turbo, you would understand why I idle down those engines. The blower temp can easily reach over 1000 degrees, under a load. (that's hot enough to "cook" the oil in the bearings) Idle the engine for 2-3 minutes and that blower temp will drop to 300-400 degrees.