Outgrew TC33, need more hp , pto capacity and cab

mathey · May 14, 2006

( a finish mower needs more hp than a rough cut bush hog type )

actually, I think that's backwards, at least to a point...

for example, a lot of tractors I've been looking at (NH TC 31/34, Kubota B2630/3030 L2800/3400) are rated to pull a 72" finish mower but only a 60" rotary. At some point the rotarys go from a single spindle to dual, which ups the HP requirements.

AndyMA · May 15, 2006

35 hp for a 15' 3100# batwing? Seems way low to me. I don't find 35hp too much for a 6' mower. Also foot for foot why would a batwings hp requirements be any different than a non batwing. Same rotating mass.

Andy

AndyMA · May 15, 2006

35 hp for a 15' 3100# batwing? Seems way low to me. I don't find 35hp too much for a 6' mower. Also foot for foot why would a batwings hp requirements be any different than a non batwing. Same rotating mass.

Andy

Soundguy · May 16, 2006

( 35 hp for a 15' 3100# batwing? Seems way low to me. I don't find 35hp too much for a 6' mower )

I completely agree.

( Also foot for foot why would a batwings hp requirements be any different than a non batwing. Same rotating mass.
)

My take on it is that the hp requirements for a mower ( drag or 3pt ) is not only a hp requirement.. but a general tractor 'size' requirement... IE a higher hp tractor will be bigger or heavier. To that end... a 3pt mower will have a higher requirement, as the tractor will need to be able to lift the mower on the lift. For instance.. a drag mower will have part of the load on the tractors swinging drawbar.. and part of the load on the mowers rear wheels. on a 3pt mower it is possible to lift the mower off the ground.. thus putting all the load on the tractor. My Nh 7610s drives better with my 15' batwing mower ont he back, then with my 10' 3pt mower on the back, and lifted to where it is almost off the ground. interestingly enough.. my 10' mower comes in a drag styel.. and they each list a different hp requirement.. even thought the physical 'deck' is the same, just one has a drag mount.. and hyd tail wheels whereas the 3pt unit has a fixed aframe, and turnbuckle tail wheel adjustments... still.. I think a 35hp tractor pulling a batwing is rather funny. heck.. a 7' mower would be alot ofr a 35 hp tractor..

Soundguy

Soundguy · May 16, 2006

( 35 hp for a 15' 3100# batwing? Seems way low to me. I don't find 35hp too much for a 6' mower )

I completely agree.

( Also foot for foot why would a batwings hp requirements be any different than a non batwing. Same rotating mass.
)

My take on it is that the hp requirements for a mower ( drag or 3pt ) is not only a hp requirement.. but a general tractor 'size' requirement... IE a higher hp tractor will be bigger or heavier. To that end... a 3pt mower will have a higher requirement, as the tractor will need to be able to lift the mower on the lift. For instance.. a drag mower will have part of the load on the tractors swinging drawbar.. and part of the load on the mowers rear wheels. on a 3pt mower it is possible to lift the mower off the ground.. thus putting all the load on the tractor. My Nh 7610s drives better with my 15' batwing mower ont he back, then with my 10' 3pt mower on the back, and lifted to where it is almost off the ground. interestingly enough.. my 10' mower comes in a drag styel.. and they each list a different hp requirement.. even thought the physical 'deck' is the same, just one has a drag mount.. and hyd tail wheels whereas the 3pt unit has a fixed aframe, and turnbuckle tail wheel adjustments... still.. I think a 35hp tractor pulling a batwing is rather funny. heck.. a 7' mower would be alot ofr a 35 hp tractor..

Soundguy

Dirtball · May 22, 2006

So what's out there in 50-70hp that has a metal cab with HVAC. I am only familiar with Boomers uo to 45hp.

Dirtball · May 22, 2006

So what's out there in 50-70hp that has a metal cab with HVAC. I am only familiar with Boomers uo to 45hp.

AndyMA · May 22, 2006

( So what's out there in 50-70hp that has a metal cab with HVAC. I am only familiar with Boomers uo to 45hp. )

In the New Holland line it's the TN DA series. Excellent machines. I have a TN75D

Andy

AndyMA · May 22, 2006

( So what's out there in 50-70hp that has a metal cab with HVAC. I am only familiar with Boomers uo to 45hp. )

In the New Holland line it's the TN DA series. Excellent machines. I have a TN75D

Andy