Overhead welding

   / Overhead welding #11  
A lot of times you won't remember how you got burned...but the really good scars you remember. I have this one on my leg while I was welding 309L overhead. I was welding a test plate in a seated position and a piece of slag hit my lap, burned through my jeans, boxers and ROLLED down to the inseam. Fortunately it extinguished before hitting anything more sensitive. I never broke arc and passed the plate. But that one left some deep tracks about 1.5 inch long.
 
   / Overhead welding #12  
Get real good at flipping things over and lay some 7024 in there LOL.

I've been welding for awhile and still can't weld out of position very well, DC makes it a little easier. Lower the amps a bit also and maybe try some 7014.

JB.
 
   / Overhead welding #13  
There is an old pipe welder saying that goes" If you want the bottom (overhead) to look like the top, screw up the top" which is somewhat true. With lots of practice, you can make a good looking overhead weld with a DC machine. AC machine characteristics dont lend themselves to making good looking overhead welds. An AC rod needs to have a slightly long arc to keep from arcing out (sticking). For overhead welding, you have to run a very short arc which reduces the arc blow somewhat and allows the metal to stick rather than just droop and fall. E7018 is likely your best rod for AC machine for overhead. As Mark said, with 6011 or 6013 AC rods, you will need to step in and out of the puddle with the arc shorter at the puddle and then long arc it a bit as you step forward. This allows the metal to cool slightly as you step forward then go back to the pudddle to add some more metal. You have to have the amperage set currectly to weld overhead. It has to be slightly higher amperage ( maybe 5-10 ams) than welding flat or vertical for most overhead welding. This is assuming that you are not running too high on the flat surfaces which lots of beginners do. If you set your machine to weld flat so that there is not a lot of arc blow and undercut but still have a fairly flat bead with slight convex surface, then to weld overhead, just raise the amps slightly. This is especially needed with an AC machine to keep the slag away from you rod so it doesnt arc out. With 7018, hold a very short arc and slightly weave the rod, do not step out of the puddle with 7018 like you do with the 60xx rods. Keep a very short arc, and slight weave or just drag the rod. Angle the rod so it is pointed 10-15 degrees toward the puddle and weld toward yourself so you can see the puddle. Keep the rod pointed straight in vertical position if you are welding flat V groove overhead, buy this I mean keep the vertical plane straight up and down but have the rod angle tilted in the direction of travel slightly. Some of this is very hard to explain and much easier to show which is why welding classes are good to go to if you have a competent instructor.
 
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#14  
thank you my friends for all the tips...cant wait to try them out.

Yes even I have already got burned. The worst was when I was chipping some hot slag off and a chunk lodged on top of my ear. I heard the sound before I felt the pain...it sounded just like bacon frying
 
   / Overhead welding #15  
When you're practicing overhead at first, set the height of the material being welded where you can keep your elbows tucked into your sides. This will help keep your arms from getting fatigued, and keep your hand steadier! Two weeks from now you should be good enough at over head that you can stand on the top step of an 8-foot step ladder on one foot, reaching at full arm extension to make a weld.;)
 
   / Overhead welding #16  
Turbo the older I get the less I worry about burning my ears. The extra hair I have growing out of them makes less of a worry.:laughing: By the time it reaches the ear canal, the spark has singed itself cold.
 
   / Overhead welding #17  
I like 6011 overhead with an A/C machine. Just like someone else said. It takes practice
 
   / Overhead welding #18  
I've had good luck with 6013 too but most of my welds are GORILLA welds some times ugly but strong!
 

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