Buying Advice Overwhelmed by options

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Are you retired so this project will be supplemental income, or does this plan replace a day job so it is 'make or break'?
 
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I was just at Elite Lift today in Minnesota and they have 2 cab on DXs on their lot still. I wanna say they were a 45 hp and 50 hp.

Jim is the owner, you may want to give him a jungle. 763-421-9081
 
   / Overwhelmed by options #13  
The local dealer said he can't get a DK (that was one of my top choices). Maybe I'll start contacting other dealers further out...

I agree with stepping up to the DK40 or even 45 Its a solid machine and very capable!
 
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Following LINK is to threads from the T-B-N archive which my be helpful.

LINK:

https://www.google.com/search?clien...tractorbynet.com&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&gws_rd=ssl

Thanks, will be looking through some of those.

I was just at Elite Lift today in Minnesota and they have 2 cab on DXs on their lot still. I wanna say they were a 45 hp and 50 hp.

Jim is the owner, you may want to give him a jungle. 763-421-9081

Unfortunately I am in Ontario, Canada so that is a bit far away.

So I guess the general consensus is that I'm "aiming too low" with a 30-40? My concern is that I don't want "too much" tractor.

I still haven't made a final decision on the new/used front, just a used one would have to be pretty new I think.
 
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Are you retired so this project will be supplemental income, or does this plan replace a day job so it is 'make or break'?


Neither, we are both young (late 20s/early 30s) looking at this as a "serious hobby"/supplemental income to our regular jobs (we are both shift workers, not 9-5 mon-fri). When it comes down to it, if it is just break even I'm happy because we would be sustaining ourselves from a food perspective at a break even point (so in the end, money saved and that would be our "income") but naturally I'd love a bit of extra cash out of it.
 
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One of my concerns about the used market is that I am not overly mechanically inclined. That is going to be part of this learning process, we are taking a "learn by doing" approach to things. So my thought was if I get a new tractor I SHOULD have some grace period before I need to start repairing it. Smartest move ever? Maybe not...

I'm not totally opposed to used, just not an old beat up tractor that is going to need lots of love.



The local dealer said he can't get a DK (that was one of my top choices). Maybe I'll start contacting other dealers further out...

Get a new tractor with the best warranty and financing deal.

Forget about used tractors. I have a half dozen of these around my place and they are great if you want to improve your skills as a tractor mechanic.

To get your chores done, zero in on tractors in the 40 hp (pto) range with hydrostatic tranny, front end loader (FEL) with a 5-ft wide bucket and the skid steer quick attach option, dual rear remote hydraulic couplings. I'd choose R1 ag tires.

Good luck.
 
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I also wouldn't suggest used. You don't get a good deal on them till they are 10-20 years old and by then, you can look to be replacing parts regularly. Newer used that are less than 5 years old are almost always nearly the same price as new, many times asking as much or more than they cost new when bought. The funny thing is many of them are getting those prices so negotiating a better price is not to great either. If you have a good credit line, you can get 0% financing on most new tractors which is worth a few thousand over new that would be 5-10% or more to finance. You can also roll all of your equipment purchased at the time of sale into the 0% finance so that is also worth some bucks.

Don't forget to price some of the LS tractors. There should be some dealers nearby and they are generally a few thousand less than all the other brands and have better warranty than most others especially the Kubota with 1 year vs a 5 year engine/powertrain on the LS and I think 2 year bumper to bumper warranty. And they come with standard options that most other brands charge for like 2 rear remotes, telescopic lower 3 PH links.
 
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I also wouldn't suggest used. You don't get a good deal on them till they are 10-20 years old and by then, you can look to be replacing parts regularly. Newer used that are less than 5 years old are almost always nearly the same price as new, many times asking as much or more than they cost new when bought. The funny thing is many of them are getting those prices so negotiating a better price is not to great either. If you have a good credit line, you can get 0% financing on most new tractors which is worth a few thousand over new that would be 5-10% or more to finance. You can also roll all of your equipment purchased at the time of sale into the 0% finance so that is also worth some bucks.

Don't forget to price some of the LS tractors. There should be some dealers nearby and they are generally a few thousand less than all the other brands and have better warranty than most others especially the Kubota with 1 year vs a 5 year engine/powertrain on the LS and I think 2 year bumper to bumper warranty. And they come with standard options that most other brands charge for like 2 rear remotes, telescopic lower 3 PH links.

What does the LS line offer over the standard L line? Their site isn't very clear on what you get for your $4-5k more.
 
   / Overwhelmed by options #19  
So I guess the general consensus is that I'm "aiming too low" with a 30-40? My concern is that I don't want "too much" tractor.

I don't know what you mean by "too much" tractor?

Many\most folks when buying their first tractor, settle on the 30-35 horse frame size, they see it as a step up from the "small" scuts, and it is, however for a couple grand more, moving to the 40-50 literally twice the tractor as far as lift capacity and stability (safety).

Myself, I find the 30-35 horse machines narrow and tippy, and with R4s, most in that HP range run the 15-19.5 drive tire which is wide, with a very flat profile, which makes for crappy traction on a fairly light tractor.

All I can tell you is the difference is night and day stepping up to the 40-50 horse frame size when it comes time to get some work done.
 
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So I guess the general consensus is that I'm "aiming too low" with a 30-40? My concern is that I don't want "too much" tractor.

For your relatively small acreage you probably want a specialty "narrow" Vineyard and Orchard Tractor, rather than a standard width tractor, so you do not waste space between rows.

LINKS:

Kubota Tractor Corporation - Tractors | M Series | M40 Narrow

John*Deere 5EN Narrow Series Specialty Tractors JohnDeere.com

https://www.google.com/search?clien...tractorbynet.com&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&gws_rd=ssl



Just what you needed……more complexity.
 
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