Painting over nicotine/tar stains on wall.

[RSKY]

We cleaned the walls with KaBoom. Worked better than TSP. Spray it on, wait until it turns white, used a sponge mop and cold water to take residue off. Took two hours to clean a roughly 32' x 12' room. Looks much better but you can still see that pictures were on the walls. But the nicotine and tar are gone. The rinse water was simply nasty. Remainder of house has paneling or wallpaper and we will use sponge mops to clean the walls there.

Going to Sherwin-Williams this morning to get the shellac based primer. It is white colored and we hope to use it as ceiling paint. Don't know how that will work but we are going to try it. It is alcohol based and dries in 45 minutes. So we can prime and then paint an hour later. Have a crew gathering this morning to get it all finished up. Gonna prime and paint the ceiling and walls in the living/dining area. Then the young lady and I will start laying laminate flooring while my oldest daughter and son-in-law finish painting the ceilings in the remainder of the house. Daughter will paint the crown molding, she is good at that. Granna will babysit and be the gofer. Youngest daughter and S-I-L having to work on something else at their own house.

We used an ozone generator to clear our house after two skunk sprayings in a week. One was under the house and the second spraying happened when I shot one in a trap by the central air unit. (NOTE: Always shoot a skunk with a shotgun in the hindquarters to keep them from reflex spraying........Trust me, I know this from bitter experience. A head shot and they spray.) Company we got it from said it would clear a 150,000 square foot warehouse of smoke smell in 24 hours and we ran it for a week solid in our house. Unfortunately they will only rent for insurance claims. Don't know why. We have a small air cleaner/ionizer that we are going to set in front of the return air for the central unit. Hopefully this will clear the small remaining odor out of the house.

Got to replace a pipe under the sink. Got to trim around the new return air cover. Got to install 14 window blinds. Got to power wash the carport, front porch, and gutters. Got to wash a few windows. Got to finish emptying the small storage building behind the house. Got to move the small trailer with two flat tires chained to the TV tower that nobody has a key to the lock.

Dang, we having fun.

Real Estate lady back Friday. Worked hard for six hours chattering away, happy as she could be. Rubber gloves up to her elbows tackling the tough jobs in the bathrooms. I think she wants to help and sees a quick sale at listing price. Plus she said that we were helping the girl who is in a bad situation with the house four hours away from her home and a very sick mother six hours away in the opposite direction. So, she said, it didn't bother her to spend some free time helping too.

Anyway, the house has gone from a stinking dump to a nice place in a week. Getting the new paint on the walls, the new flooring in the living/dining area, and the carpet cleaned in the remainder of the house and it will go quickly.

Hard work but it has kinda been fun.

Thanks for all your information. Anything you need to know, just ask on TBN.

RSKY

 

[crackerjack222]

RSKY, one big attaboy to you and your family for what you are doing for this young lady. You folks are salt of the earth.

 

[EddieWalker]

Kilz always disappoints. It's a wonder how they stay in business, or why anybody buys their products. Especially when right next to it on the same shelf is Zinsser. For the same money, Zinsser works great. As already mentioned, their oil based stain BIN is amazing. It sticks to and covers extremely well. Being oil based, the smell does bother some people. You can spray it, or roll it. If you roll it, be prepared for a big mess. It's like water and it doesn't stick to a brush or roller very well.

Sherwin Williams also sells specialty primers designed for certain tasks. I always ask for help when I go there and I'm dealing with something new.

 

[5030]

Simple answer.... KILZ primer first

I tried Zinzer one time... It 'disapointed' me. I own numerous rentals and I always use Kilz (following the directions on the can), which seems to be a concept with some today....:confused2:

 

[bigtiller]

Is there a difference between Sherwin Williams paint a Lowes, and the paint at a Sherwin Williams store?

 

[5030]

Is there a difference between Sherwin Williams paint a Lowes, and the paint at a Sherwin Williams store?

No idea, I use Behr. I find SW to always be more expensive than Behr and coverage / hide quality is just as good. When I buy paint (and I always buy in 5 gallon pails because it's cheaper and I use it), I always check the content label for the solids content versus the liquid content. More titanium oxide means better coverage and better hiding capability.

Myself, I much prefer masking and using an airless on interior repaints on rentals. I can bang out a 3 bedroom rental (mask and all) in half a day.

 

[brown40]

You definitely did the right thing thoroughly cleaning. Hate to see people invest the time and money in sprucing up, but not doing the prep work to make sure the paint has a good surface to bind to. As far as primers go, "one coat coverage" is not what I want so much as "holds fast". Thin hard layers instead of thick soft ones--the primer is the binder, the paint is the finish. Getting the gunk off the surface is the only way to bond to it. Occasional bleed through on newer wood is simply the way things are--fresh lumber can push out a trail of sap through the paint, and will do the same with pigments on the knots. Once its aged & dried, expectations can be higher, but new wood seems to bleed.

 

[Otto Syracuse]

I'm in the hotel business, and have spent a lot of time and money either converting smoking rooms to non-smoking rooms, or cleaning up non-smoking rooms from people that decided to smoke in it anyways. We found Simple Green to work quite well,and it is easier on our crews to use. The ozone machines will only work for a while, and you should not be in the room while it is in operation.

Sounds like you are done with your project, but just posting for others.

 

[EddieWalker]

Is there a difference between Sherwin Williams paint a Lowes, and the paint at a Sherwin Williams store?

It's the same paint. The manager at Sherwin Wiliams told me that they sell so much of it at Lowes that they are making money on it even though it's less at Lowes then at the Sherwin Williams store.

 

[two_bit_score]

Don't try to remove it. Paint it with white pigmented shellac.

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I believe that's what Killz is basically.

I could be wrong but not Kilz, B.I.N. is though. S/W sells their own brand that is what I've used. Gave up on Kilz a long time ago for most stuff. Had a rent house where the tenant wrote on the wall with red lipstick. Kilz would not cover it, keep bleeding through. S/W white pigmented shellac, one coat. No problem.

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