parts pricing

[farmerpsv]

Howdy gang,
am finally trading my JD 2020 in and decided to go with blue. as a final blow, my JD starter died this week, so i have to replace it since i'm trading it in /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif. i have found JD parts to be very expensive, even the rebuilts (is that what they mean by 'green'?) are parts for NH tractors as pricey? is this just a tractor thing?
paul

 

[DUMBDOG]

I do believe that parts are high priced for New Holland, also. However it has a lot to do with the local dealer. I have a New Holland compact tractor and a JD backhoe. The NH dealer charges suggested retail prices on the items that I have checked. The JD dealer which is part of a multi dealer group in the upper midwest has one price on their website and when you go in to buy something, the price is higher, in addition they charge $4 freight on special orders, which are usually small items for me. On a average of 20 orders per day they are getting an additional $80 for freight which comes from the same place and costing them 5-10 dollars on something they should have in stock anyway.

Guess some of it is due to not selling enough of the new equipment. bloated overhead, and greed on the part of the dealer. Not all dealers do this, just the greedy ones, but this is not limited to tractor dealers but auto dealers, etc.

 

[spencer200]

Gee I wish I knew how to get that 5-10.00 freight charge most daily orders I place with new holland the freight bill comes in between 20.00 and 50.00 depending on the weight of the order in some real extreme case the freight charges have been as much as 200.00 on daily orders for really large heavy items. I wish as a dealer I was making as much as a lot of you think we are, but like all things there has to be a profit in order for the dealer to be there and take care of your needs in the future. Those big buildings and employees sent to school all the time dont come cheaply.

 

[spencer200]

A new starter motor for the tractor you just bought. Has a dealer list price of about 280.00 just for your reference.

 

[farmerpsv]

Spencer,
that's about what the JD starter cost me, perhaps, as i queried, it's just a tractor thing. parts for tractors are much more expensive than cars, which is my only frame of reference. didn't mean to imply that the dealer was gouging, no offense intended...just grousing over the cost on a personal level. just for perspective, i'm not really putting JD down either. this was a used machine when i bought it with a few hundred hours on a rebuilt engine. being ignorant, i over paid (from a private party). the engine has always run beautifully, but i've had to replace many of the other parts, so i'm just smarting a bit. so far i'm very pleased with my dealer and don't feel the least bit taken advantage of with pricing, just wondering if it's common to all tractors.
paul

 

[BIGUN]

I bet you are comparing tractor parts prices to car parts prices at places like AutoZone. If you compared them to car parts at the dealerships they probably wouldn’t seem that far out of line. Ever wonder why there are so many independent parts dealers when everyone could just buy them from their dealer? Price. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Too bad they don’t carry tractor parts as a rule.
By the way, I used to buy parts for my Ariens garden tractor at the John Deere dealership every time I could because they were about one fourth the price of Ariens parts. I got the same overnight parts delivery (no shipping) on ordered parts as the big farmers with their multi-thousand dollar ag tractors got. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[DUMBDOG]

I did not mean to step on any toes here, but there are dealers out there charging more than suggested retail prices which are high enough. In addition, charging $4 for freight on a wire cable that weighs less than a half of a pound and then charge ten percent more than shown on the web site is a little much on a cable which sells for $30. Another case in point is a owners manual on cd rom, web site price $30. and the price at the parts counter is $32 plus freight of $4.

I do not begrudge someone making a honest dollar, but when the nickel and dime you it gets to be to much. When I was in the retail business (recreational type vehicles) freight was a part of the cost of part, not something to be added on top of the price. My guess that the price margins are quite comprable.

Yes, buildings, staffing and schooling are expensive and quite frankly I do not know how some of the smaller dealers do it. Add in the cost of special tools and all of the other requirements that the suppliers put on the dealer and the break even point is quite high.

Also the dealer never makes what the public think that they make, they should be it for the fun, not profit, /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif but if you are not making money doing it, it is no longer fun.

There are lots of good dealers out there, however there are the few who tarnish the image of all.