Pave Your Own Driveway?

   / Pave Your Own Driveway? #11  
If you decide to do asphalt, spec that minimum thickness to be 2" - NOT average thickness.
Old cracks in asphalt will telegraph through topcoat. Get a fabric liner to put over old asphalt.
If you decide to do concrete, don't take on the whole job at once. Break it up into sections. Think in terms of 12' x 12'. All would recognize that as a DIY size. If that goes well, following weekend, do a 12' x 24'. You get the idea.
 
   / Pave Your Own Driveway? #12  
My family has always had concrete drives and it is not that hard to pour. We would pour in the morning when dad worked 2nd shift and I would prep the next pour before the next morning. To have edge support you need to be 12' wide and we use 6 bag mix with fiberglass. The house we own now we poured at 5.5" deep and Propane trucks drive on it.

With a very good base, a 4" paving job is quite strong.
I'd use wire instead of fiber mix. Or maybe wire and fiber. I have poured lots of concrete. Have two power towells now plus all the drags and bull floats. Pour it manual. That machine is a disaster waiting to happen.
 
   / Pave Your Own Driveway? #13  
My driveway is concrete, and is about 50 foot long and about 20 foot wide, with a decorative border. It was poured about 22 years ago; they removed the old concrete, hauled it off, built forms, with steel reinforcement, poured and finished it for $4500. It is still nice, with only a few small cracks. FWIW, it is much nicer, from an esthetic point of view, than my neighbor's asphalt drive.

The price was right; some of the estimates were as high as $7000. The contractor called me around Christmas, said the builders had shut down for the holidays, and that he need to keep his crew working so they would have some Christmas money.
 
   / Pave Your Own Driveway? #14  
I'd use wire instead of fiber mix. Or maybe wire and fiber. I have poured lots of concrete. Have two power towells now plus all the drags and bull floats. Pour it manual. That machine is a disaster waiting to happen.
Yes, fiber and wire do different things.

Concrete is very strong in compression, but relatively weak in tension. Properly rebar reinforced concrete is twice as strong as unreinforced concrete. The compression happens when a heavy truck passes over a well compacted, deep base. The latter happens when there is a lack of support underneath, and the concrete flexes downward, like a beam in a building.

Glass or plastic fiber helps with surface cracking and spalling, especially during drying. It doesn't add much strength to the final concrete. There are spiral steel "fibers" that are sometimes used as a strength additive, but even more than glass or plastic, the steel fibers tend to clump during mixing, which does away with their strength. It is very technique driven, and dependent upon not having water on the surface, I.e. ok for a warehouse floor, but not for a driveway, especially one that gets salt.

Rebar, 3/4 of the way down on lots of supports (chairs, preferably plastic or concrete), wired together so that it does not get stepped on and pressed to the bottom, acts in tension to support the concrete and helps reduce cracking caused by heavy loads or a poor base, or, say ground squirrels.

Lots of information here; Concrete Rebar: Everything You Need To Know [plus 8 Main Types]

@Creamer In answer to the original question, this doesn't sound like a DIY job to me, and as others have mentioned, I think that the pricing is off.

For DIY, in addition to pouring, concrete requires good surface work (floating) to milk more cement to the surface to make a harder, more water impervious layer at the top. You need to be doing that at the right time after pouring when the concrete has just set enough. Concrete waits for nobody.

As @Have tractor will travel mentions, you could break it up into small 12x12' chunks, but why demo out a reasonable asphalt base? I would level up the base, tar it, add fabric (geotextile), tar it again, and pave with 2+" of new asphalt. If you are worried about loads, talk to your asphalt supplier and get base asphalt put down which has a coarser mix of gravel, but is stronger. Repave with a second layer of finish asphalt in a year or two, if you want a super smooth driveway.

All the best,

Peter
 
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   / Pave Your Own Driveway? #15  
What am I missing?
I had a concrete company recently install a 3,600 sq ft concrete slab for my metal building. 60 feet by 60 feet. Just a fraction of the area you are considering, although a building slab is probably more complex to do than a driveway.

On the day of the pour, they had a crew of about 10 men working on it. Plus a pump truck. Plus "ride on" motorized trowel machines. And it goes on and on. I never saw any of them sit down until the job was finished, which took most of the day.

Did I mention all the prep work they did in advance of the day of the pour?

I can't imagine anyone trying to do that, or something larger, DIY.

I'm really pleased with the warranty offered by my contractor. When I asked about it, he said: "Lifetime warranty against fire and theft !!!"
 
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   / Pave Your Own Driveway? #16  
Sometimes the easier something looks the harder it is to do correctly....concrete falls into that category for me.

I do small concrete jobs from time to time and you are at the concrete's mercy, no breaks and if something goes wrong it's ALOT of work to correct.
 
   / Pave Your Own Driveway? #18  
It would be interesting to see what kind of support would be required to feed the slip paver. Pumper, or can the truck drive along side and dump into the hopper?
 
   / Pave Your Own Driveway? #19  
There are a couple different styles, some have a bin, some you just dump on the ground and the paver grabs it and spreads it out. Some are huge, will do more than 24 feet wide.
 
   / Pave Your Own Driveway? #20  
If you decide to do asphalt, spec that minimum thickness to be 2" - NOT average thickness.
Old cracks in asphalt will telegraph through topcoat. Get a fabric liner to put over old asphalt.
If you decide to do concrete, don't take on the whole job at once. Break it up into sections. Think in terms of 12' x 12'. All would recognize that as a DIY size. If that goes well, following weekend, do a 12' x 24'. You get the idea.

A 12x12 slab is only a little over 2 yards which isn’t enough to get free delivery from most concrete plants so your slab needs to be bigger to get the best value but it definitely needs to be done in sections.
 

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