Peruzzo Fox Cross 1600 Ditch & Bank Mower Review

   / Peruzzo Fox Cross 1600 Ditch & Bank Mower Review #1  

TerryR

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There was quite a thread on ditch and bank mowers last fall - see Offset Flail Ditch Bank Mower

As a result of that discussion I ended up buying a Peruzzo Fox Cross 1600 ditch and bank flail mower. I've now had a chance to use it a bit and prompted by a private message asking about it I thought it is time to offer a review.

I decided on this brand because of it's size, weight, and amount of offset offered. My tractor is a John Deere 870, rated at 28 HP and about 2600 lb. Our property is fairly steep, with around four acres we mow, twice a year:
field-from-top.jpg

Because of the hillside I have the rear tires set all the way out, which presents a problem when you want a ditch and bank mower to be able swing up or down to cut a ditch or bank outside the rear tire. This model seemed to have about the farthest reach of those I looked at. I was also concerned about the weight of the unit when lifted off to the side, given the relatively light weight of my tractor, especially on the hills. This model was one of the lighter ones I found in a five-foot mower. With 250 lb of suitcase weights on the front you know it's there, but the tractor does handle it pretty well. Still, I'm careful when lifting it on a side hill.

There seems to be only one Peruzzo dealer in the US, Iowa Farm Equipment, at Iowa Farm Equipment. Buying an expensive toy like this online isn't ideal, but they made it pretty painless. Hint, deal with them by phone, rather than buying from them on Ebay or off their direct-sales website at farmattachments.com

Getting it delivered, even with lift-gate service from the trucking service was interesting. He was able to get it on the lift-gate and to the ground, but I had to drag it off the lift-gate with my tractor.

Construction quality of the machine is impressive. Nice fit and finish all around. Little things, like extension tubes on the grease fittings that are hard to reach, and a plastic edging around the belt cover where it fits against the frame, are nice touches.

It requires two hydraulic connections, one with float, to control the offset and vertical angle of the mower head. I used the outlets for my FEL, which is fine because I remove it when mowing anyway. The cylinders are small so this makes any movement pretty jumpy, especially at PTO engine speed. I'm getting better at dealing with that. The dealer included extension hoses to reach the FEL connections in their quote, which was helpful. There was an issue with the coupling between the factory hoses and the extensions leaking, but they sent replacement seals that fixed that issue.

Using this arrangement takes some getting used to. You are supposed to keep the up-down angle cylinder in float. But that means before you lift the unit with the 3-point lever you have to remember to pull the FEL joystick out of float and actually pull the slack out of that cylinder. I'm getting better at that too.

The 3-point hitch is an awkward cat 1/2 arrangement. It uses cat 2 size pins in a yoke, with the smaller cat 1 pins projecting inwards, which you can kind of see in the photo below. The way it's mounted the cat 1 pins can't be removed while hitched up, so you have to loosen the sway bars enough to let the 3-point arms swing in off the pins to hitch or un-hitch it. It works, but it's painful. Keeping it on a dollie helps:
mower-dollie-front.jpg

So, how does it work? As a ditch and bank mower, it's claim to fame, it's great! Here's a shot of my testing it on one of my banks last winter:
bank-rear.jpg

This bank is too steep to cut across with the rotary cutter, so I had to make repeated steps backing up it, a total pain. With this I can make one pass from the top then cut the rest from below with the mower extended up the bank. Here's how it looks:
bank-with-Jenny.jpg

I also have a ditch with a steep bank into the field:
ditch-with-Jenny.jpg
With this I can make one pass to cut the road side, then with the tire in the ditch cut a pass on the far side of the ditch, then a second pass with the tractor part way up the hillside. That gets me far enough to reach from above with the mower offset down the slope.

Here's an even steeper bank being cut:
driveway-bank.jpg

In addition to doing ditch and bank work I hoped to use it to mow the field, replacing my Bush Hog brand rotary cutter. In this application it's rather more a mixed bag. I had hoped to solve two issues that I have with the rotary cutter -- leaving heavy windrows since I cut only twice a year, and failing to cut what the tractor tires run over so that pops up an hour later.

Clearly the flail solves the windrow issue. It leaves a thin cover of well-cut greens across the width of the cut. It's not noticeably better at picking up what the wheels run over. But, running in offset mode that's mostly solved since most of the time I don't have to run over un-cut material.

It's also pretty convenient when cutting under trees using the offset, and we have lots of trees in and around the field (see first photo above).

But the cut quality, leaving aside what the wheels run over, is clearly better with the rotary cutter. The flail (with hammer knives) does fine in grass, but not so well with stemmy weeds. It leaves a lot of six to twelve inch stems standing:
stubble.jpg

Here's a shot of the sort of weeds it doesn't like:
weeds.jpg

Also, it uses a lot more fuel. I've never used two plus full tanks to mow this field before. We have a lot of little awkward corners that require backing and forthing, and the flail doesn't cut in reverse. So it takes twice as long to cut these places. It doesn't back into really tight spaces between trees as well as the rotary.

I'm also concerned about the amount of maintenance. After one use the blades look pretty beat up. Part of that is from setting it too low for a while trying to improve the cut quality and getting in the rocks and dirt, but the thought of having to sharpen all those knives is painful.

So... I'll probably keep using it for the field, but I'm not ready to sell my rotary cutter yet.
 
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   / Peruzzo Fox Cross 1600 Ditch & Bank Mower Review #2  
Nice review, thanks for taking time to write it. Some restrictors would slow the hydraulics.
 
   / Peruzzo Fox Cross 1600 Ditch & Bank Mower Review
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#3  
Nice review, thanks for taking time to write it. Some restrictors would slow the hydraulics.

Thanks.

There are orifices supplied in the connectors, but still they are pretty jumpy. Is there a better way to slow them down? Or smaller orifices?
 
   / Peruzzo Fox Cross 1600 Ditch & Bank Mower Review #4  
Hello Terry,

You can purchase an adjustable flow control needle valve for each function to slow it down to where you want the cylinder speed to be. The flow control needle valve can be installed on the cylinder and you can just set the flow rate in gallons per minute and then lock the adjustment valve down with an allen wrench in some models.

By doing this the amount of oil is regulated on one side of the cylinder and the return flow is unrestricted when the cylinder is retracted.

You would need more hydraulic fittings. The folks at Iowa Farm equipment would be able to send you what you need as they know what mower you have and the hoses it has as you will need either 2 or 4 JIC to pipe fittings to attach the 2 or 4 needle valves to the cylinder fittings.



Oh and the micromark water bath grinder will sharpen your hammer knives you will need a tool angle gauge to set the tool rest for cool grinding the hammer knives back to sharp.

The water bath cool grinder was still $99.00+ tax and shipping and the tool rest gauge setting tool from woodcraft was $25.00 the last time I checked.

The wet grinder can be used for sharpening wood and metal chisels, rotary mower blades, kitchen knives etc. I would want a second stone for the kitchen knife grinding though.
 
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Thanks, leonz,

I'll look at needle valves to control the flow.

Regarding sharpening, I have a Tormek wet grinder, so that's not the issue. The issue is there are 50 of them, each having to be removed, sharpened, and replaced. Even with the mower turned up on it's side that looks like a formidable task, especially if it has to be done every time I use the mower as it appears after this first use.
 
   / Peruzzo Fox Cross 1600 Ditch & Bank Mower Review #6  
Hello Terry,

I am half way out the door, but I wanted to ask if raising the mowing height two holes might help?
Would the cut after that change in mowing height be something that you would be willing to accept?
I remember you saying that you clipped a lot of rocks with the height as it came from the dealer.

I dont remember if your hammers are pinned or bolted into the knife hanger stations.


Once you have the flail mower rotor washed off with hot water the battle if half won when removing the
hammer knives.

My flail mower has tool less knife hangers but it still takes a while to remove all the side slice pairs from the 64 stations only because of the fine grass dust that I cannot wash out with a garden hose and hot water.



Leon
 
   / Peruzzo Fox Cross 1600 Ditch & Bank Mower Review
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Hi, Leon,

Actually, I initially raised it to maximum height to get it out of the dirt. When I mentioned the poor cut quality to the dealer he suggested I lower it, so I put it down two holes on the roller. That's when I hit a few rocks, so I moved it back up one hole. None of that seemed to make any difference in the cutting quality issue I mentioned above, but this last adjustment did get it high enough that it wasn't continually in the dirt and rocks.

The hammers on this unit are bolted in. I've not tried removing them yet, but it doesn't look hard. The issue is the number of them, not the difficulty of working with each one. I'm used to working with a rotary cutter that only has two blades so it doesn't take long, and only needs sharpening very three years or so.
 
   / Peruzzo Fox Cross 1600 Ditch & Bank Mower Review #8  
Hello Terry,

if when you buy the wrenches be sure to buy 2 good metric ratchet wrench's and a good 3/8 drive ratchet and 2 12 point sockets
for the work.

If it were me I would also buy a deep and shallow 12 point impact socket and a good breaker bar from Snap On or NAPA so in that way the socket will never wear out on you and cause you to fill the swear jar when you are unbolting the hammer knives when ever you need to as the long breaker bar and the 12 point socket on the other end can be easily used.
 
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#9  
Sorry, Leon,

If I have to do all that I'm selling the mower and go back to the rotary. It's worth my time and money.

Terry
 
   / Peruzzo Fox Cross 1600 Ditch & Bank Mower Review #10  
Thanks TerryR for the review. I have a new New Holland Powerstar T4.75 tractor on it's way. I'm really interested in an offset ditch bank flail mower but I'm almost exhausted trying to figure out which one, what width, and if i'm going to be happy with it at one of my places that has alot of rocks.

I'm afraid setting the height all the way up will give me a disappointing mow quality. However nothing in those rocky conditions will work well. Looks like a good quality one of these will cost some serious money which I wouldn't mind if I'm happy with it. I have 2 rear remotes coming on this tractor but i'm not sure yet if one of them has a "float" setting or not. I've considered just getting a Rhino Bat wing instead but I'm not sure that would be better as it doesn't angle downward as many degrees. I have one place that has no rocks but a pond bank that this offset flail mower will surely be very good solution. The problem is..........with these decisions, you are stuck with a huge investment and may not be happy with the decision.
 
 

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