PHD grabbed my Father-in-Law yesterday

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Grizzman

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It was a pretty shocking day yesterday. My wife's mom and dad sold their farm in Missouri and are moving to be close to us in Tennessee. They are living with us until the buy a new farm. My wife's dad has extensive training on tractors and dozers working for the Missouri conservation for many years. We are in the process of building 2 new horse pastures. I have a old PHD we borrowed from a friend. I have not used it because it does not have any safety features installed(actually I was going to return it to our friend) and buy a new one. Well at work yesterday I get the call from the wife around 2 pm. She says her Dad wants to use my tractor to start drilling holes for the corner post. I tell her no and for him to wait until I get home from work. She begs him to wait until I get home before he attempts to use the PHD. Now he has used my tractor on occasions to do work around the farm and he has used farm implements all his life. Well the old boy (70) gets busy as soon as she leaves for work. Well I get the dreaded call at 5pm. He is at the emergency room in serious condition. He got off the tractor with the PTO running to get something behind the tractor. The PHD is going full speed. He trips going back to the tractor and falls into the PHD and it caught his shirt. Luckily he lost his shirt quickly. He broke his right arm in 4 places. Broke 4 ribs and is beat up pretty bad. He is lucky to be alive. My 11 year old son witnessed the whole thing and is really shook up. He is going into surgery tommorrow to have his arm set and metal plates inserted. He will be in the hospital for a few days but should make a full recovery. He is a great guy and we love him to death but he is stubborn as a mule and still thinks he is 20 years old. He refuses to use the ROPS and to put a seat belt on. I crawled his butt the other day before because he was working on the tractor with the ROPS up with no seat belt on. Go figure? We just hope this was a wakeup call for him. He was lucky and we are lucky to still have him.

I would like to just say for you grandpa's out there that have been on tractors your whole life. It can happen to you, your not 20 years old anymore. Think about your family and grand kids when you get on that tractor without a seatbelt or a ROPS. Listen to your kids when they hassle you over safety. Put that seatbelt on and pull up the ROPS its there to protect you. Get rid of the implements that don't have PTO shields and other safety features or have them installed. Your family cares about you don't be HARD HEADED!
 
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Sorry to hear about your FIL. Accidents happen all to fast and as our folks get older they don't realize how much slower that they have become. I know a gentleman that was wrapped up in a PHA about 20 years ago, he still has problems from it. I hope that the surgery goes well for him.
 
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Wow, that is one tractor accident no one in your family will be forgetting anytime soon. Thank God that he lost his shirt when he did. Wishing him a quick recovery to his full health.....
 
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Wish Father in law well and hope all goes well for him.

Remembering from my youth PHD were invoved in quite a few accidents as well as PTO's.

Egon
 
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What safety device would have prevented this? Could it not have happened with even a modern tractor/PHD? One of my worst fears is being sucked into a rotating shaft like that.
 
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Grizzman, I do hope your FIL recovers quickly but I really wonder what safety devices can be installed on a PHD? I have one and I have a 50' rule. If anyone one (even a pet) is within 50' of me when I am using it, I won't run it. I've been told I'm overly cautious, but a running child or dog can close a 50' distance in about 4 seconds so I stick with my rule. It would not have helped your dad, as he fell into the implement, and I would not help me if I fell into mine. But mine is a new implement (3 years old) and the only safety feature it has is a PTO shield. There is no way to shield the auger and that is where most folks get caught/hurt.

One note for future use, there is rarely any reason to run a PHD at full speed. Most of us start them very slow and up the speed as necessary, if necessary. But at full PTO speed a PHD is pretty unstable/unbalanced and will flop around.

My best wishes for a speedy & complete recovery.
 
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Beam,
When I was serving my apprenticeship, I spent 800 hrs in the lathe bay, various types of lathes etc. There was a fellow there that was attempting to adjust a steadyrest on a large engine lathe, somehow he managed to catch his sleeve on a potchuck that had 4 bolts protruding from the potchuck, this was being used because the shaft had no center. Well, his shirt got snagged by one of the bolts and lucky for this guy he had on a very old shirt that ripped away from his torso. He had some abrasions and was very shookup, I will never forget that as long as I live. I have often thought what a tractor PTO shaft would do to you, you would be battered and splattered, an ugly site for sure /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

scotty
 
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Hope all works our for your FIL.
I try to never use the PDH alone myself. When the PDH is in use and the PTO is on, I want someone in the seat all the time.
Scott,
You were wondering about a PTO shaft. Well I found out in a way that did not hurt anything but the machine. We had an old rotary cutter that had broke the welds to the top link so my dad got the bright idea of running a chain hook down to the bottom of the rotary cutter then accross the tractor where the top link goes and then back down to the bottom of the other side of the cutter. This worked quite well until he raised the cutter up and the chain got slack in it and got the grease fitting on the overrun coupler. It took that 3/8" logging chain wrapped it tightly around the overrun coupler and then snapped the 1 1/8" PTO shaft right off. The tractor was an old Massey Ferguson TO20.
 
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My best wishes for a speedy and complete recovery for ALL your family. Witness to an accident is never pleasant.

-Mike Z.
 
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You can back off on the 'old geezer' thing. At 67, I do a lot of things around machinery, and some of them can get one into trouble. Sorry to hear about your old father in law, for sure. But the young can get into just as much trouble, or more.

So point out the dangers, not the fact that the 'old geezer' was unfit to run your PHD and got hurt.

Sorry for the rant. You will be old some day too and have a very different outlook on how old you feel at that time, believe me. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 

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