Photography experts?

[skent]

I have an older C700 and it gives options of full manual control, shutter priority, aperture priority, time lapse as well as special effects. Has a X10 optical zoom. I haven't touched my AE1 Program since I got the Olympus. C740's sell for less than $300.00

 

[_RaT_]

One thing that I have found impossible to acheive with my digital SLR is an extreme shallow depth of field. I had a Canon 135mm f2 lens fitted to a film body that could do this better then perhaps any lens made. With digital it still works, just not as well as with film. I have some candids of my young son that are spectacular with that lens. With digital I also have to deal with the crop factor with my current camera.

 

[RobertN]

Ah, you don't have to deal with the magnification factor. They have new lenses to balance that out for Digital camera owners.

All you gotta do, is spend more money /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[RobertN]

I agree with you for the most part. I would add though, that the skills learnt using a full manual 35mm camera would benefit throughout a camera career, whether it be hobby or Pro.

Most camera's can be set to manual mode; I tend to use my Nikon F100 in manual mode rather often. I would guess that a digital SLR could do the same?
If you can learn to take good pictures with something like a Pentax K1000, then you can take good pictures with any camera. The opposite is not true if you get used to using the more automated cameras...

 

[frank_f15]

There are a lot of very good used 35 MM units out there. also the new film cameras are very afforable as it seems digital is taking over. I still use my MINOLTA 35 and was always partial to them but my digitals are olympus. check the classified adds in you local newspaper. In MHO make sure you get her one that has the ability for her to take total control, ie. auto focus, manual focus, apeture and shutter priority, + manual control. changable lenses,etc. also as an aside a decent tripod is a must.

 

[_RaT_]

<font color="blue"> Ah, you don't have to deal with the magnification factor. They have new lenses to balance that out for Digital camera owners.
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Not nearly as much as you would think. A 12mm for example is about a 20mm 1.6 crop factor. Thats still pretty wide but the distortion goes up noticeably compared to a 20mm for a 35mm. Of course, it works out OK on the other end. The semi pro and amateur DSLR's are fairly similar to the APS in terms of sensor/film size. Not until you get into the really expensive stuff do you get a 1:1 ratio on the sensor. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

 

[Ravimor]

Hi there guys! Sorry for bumping. Wanted to ask if it's still worth buying a camera for a present or it's enough to have an iPhone?

 

[MossRoad]

Hi there guys! Sorry for bumping. Wanted to ask if it's still worth buying a camera for a present or it's enough to have an iPhone?

Wow, 17 year bump.

Welcome to TBN.

I'd say it depends on the depth of the person's passion for photography. Many cell phone cameras are bette than 35mm film cameras were. I'd say make sure it's something the person would want and use before purchasing.

 

[ljjhouser]

The most popular cameras in the 70 for film was probably the following in order
Nikon F1
Argus C3
and Nikon AE1

I would NOT NOT be interested in going back to film.
Remember, the best tool of a GOOD photographer is a trash can.
If you shoot 100 photos, maybe 5-10 may be presentable. Trash the rest (or delete). Them maybe out of that 10 sometime ONE or TWO may be exceptional.

Also digital will permit her to shoot in raw format, permitting her to edit image AFTER the shot.
Use digital and get her a copy of Photoshop. Or a copy of Photoshop.

Cost of film + processing will become prohibitive. Even in the days of non-digital, the processing cost was a lot. That is why many of us had their own small darkroom. Supplies and kits to process 35mm color and prints were common for home color processing. BUT Digital eliminates most of that cost. Prints are only a file transfer away to 1 hour at Walgreens. ALSO, digital, for the most part, has a much improved resolution.
I would recommend a Nikon D3 body and a couple of lenses, USED maybe from Adorama. They have a good used department and precisely rate their condition and description.

Maybe more important - what type of photography is she interested in. Sports - then telephoto maybe 700mm- macro - macro lense - scenery - 50 mm or wide angle.

A lot to consider. Best wishes. and I would never claim to be an expert. Ha.

I am guessing you have already solved this issue. So in retrospect, how did you come out and what type did she get.

 

[ljjhouser]

Wow, 17 year bump.

Welcome to TBN.

I'd say it depends on the depth of the person's passion for photography. Many cell phone cameras are bette than 35mm film cameras were. I'd say make sure it's something the person would want and use before purchasing.

Wow. You always see the date. This is the second time that you have noticed that and I did not. Makes me laugh. And you answer is what I would agree with also.

 

[Herness]

What about Olympus? Can someone recommend this brand?
My son likes photography and i am thinking of making him a nice birthday present.
New camera plus few decent backlight from https://pеrfectpicturelights.com/ seem like a good option from my perspective.
Any other ideas or recommendations?

 

[Slowpoke Slim]

Does anyone still make 35mm film? If so, where can you get your rolls processed? I read a few years ago that Kodak stopped making 35mm film. At that time Fuji (spelling?) was about the only quality film maker left. Don't even know if they're around.

I used to be a somewhat serious semi-pro "amateur" photographer. I dabbled in black & white processing of my own film and prints, but sent off color rolls for both print and slides. For many years I only took slide film pictures because the color quality was better.

I bought my camera gear when I was stationed on Okinawa in the early 80's. Cannon camera (one of the first to get the "new" A-1), 4 or 5 lenses from macro to telephoto, big motor drive, 2 flashes, large tripod. Cannon "L" series lenses were about the best you could hope to own for clarity. Their standard lenses were also pretty good.

Long story short, my old film camera rig has been sitting in it's carry bag for probably 20 years now. I do have a Cannon digital SLR, but I almost never use it anymore either. For most of the "pictures" I'm likely to take now, the camera on my Samsung phone is "good enough".

 

[deserteagle71]

What about Olympus? Can someone recommend this brand?

Olympus is an excellent brand with a good reputation. Be aware that it is a "micro four thirds" sensor camera (generally your choices of sensor size are full frame [same size as original 35mm film], APC-S, and Micro four thirds,) with full frame being the largest. In general, the larger the sensor size the higher the quality of photo it can take - at the same time, the camera is larger and the lenses much larger to accommodate the large sensor. It is also a "mirrorless" camera, not a DSLR. So there is no mirror that has to flip out of the way when the shutter release is pressed. Most of the camera manufacturers, including Nikon and Canon, are going mirrorless. You can learn a lot more here.https://www.dpreview.com/

Personally I have used mirrorless cameras since 2005 - love them. What you see in the viewfinder is what you get when you snap the photo - if it is underexposed or overexposed, you can see that. My current camera is a Panasonic G9 mirrorless.

 

[deserteagle71]

Wow, 17 year bump.

Welcome to TBN.

I'd say it depends on the depth of the person's passion for photography. Many cell phone cameras are better than 35mm film cameras were. I'd say make sure it's something the person would want and use before purchasing.

^This.

It is very true that the cameras in the newest high-end phones are excellent. But - they are still limited, even the ones with three lenses. The larger the sensor - the better the image quality, and phones have tiny sensors compared to a good camera. So if you want to zoom in, say to take a photo of a bird at your bird feeder, the quality of the phone photo cannot equal that taken with a quality telephoto lens on a good camera because with the phone when you zoom you are merely enlarging the image on that tiny sensor. (A digital enlargement vs an optical enlargement as happens with the telephoto lens.) Interchangeable lenses are a must for serious photographers - try doing a real macro photo with a phone.

On the other hand...a phone (usually) fits in your pocket and you always have it with you. Me, I'm pretty serious about my photography so I pack a camera case around with extra lenses and accessories. If you're not willing to carry that stuff with you, might as well stay with the phone.

An alternative might be something like this tiny Sony I pack when hiking. 24-200 lens, pop-up viewfinder, and excellent picture quality. Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 VII: Digital Photography Review

 

[deserteagle71]

Does anyone still make 35mm film? If so, where can you get your rolls processed? I read a few years ago that Kodak stopped making 35mm film. At that time Fuji (spelling?) was about the only quality film maker left. Don't even know if they're around.

I used to be a somewhat serious semi-pro "amateur" photographer. I dabbled in black & white processing of my own film and prints, but sent off color rolls for both print and slides. For many years I only took slide film pictures because the color quality was better.

I bought my camera gear when I was stationed on Okinawa in the early 80's. Cannon camera (one of the first to get the "new" A-1), 4 or 5 lenses from macro to telephoto, big motor drive, 2 flashes, large tripod. Cannon "L" series lenses were about the best you could hope to own for clarity. Their standard lenses were also pretty good.

Long story short, my old film camera rig has been sitting in it's carry bag for probably 20 years now. I do have a Cannon digital SLR, but I almost never use it anymore either. For most of the "pictures" I'm likely to take now, the camera on my Samsung phone is "good enough".

Lots of 35mm film being made these days but finding processing can be problematic. Although why anyone would want to shoot film is beyond me. I have thousands upon thousands of Kodachrome slides and though they look great projected, who does that anymore? When I scan them so I can look at them on a good computer monitor they do not look as good as any of my digital stuff.

I bought my first Nikon way back when I was in Vietnam; I still have several Nikon bodies and lenses that I haven't used for years sitting in a closet. Same with all my darkroom equipment that's sitting in my basement - I'd give all that away but no one wants it these days. I also have quite a few rolls of Kodachrome slide film (unexposed) taking up space in my freezer...but there are no labs that process Kodachrome any more.

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[JasperFrank]

 

[CalG]

That K 1000 has a lot going for it!

(and not Just because I have one ... ;-)

Here is an example provided only for visuals, first image return on a search

Amazon.com : Pentax K1000 Manual Focus SLR Film Camera with Pentax 50mm Lens : Slr Digital Cameras : Electronics

Amazon.com : Pentax K1000 Manual Focus SLR Film Camera with Pentax 50mm Lens : Slr Digital Cameras : Electronics

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Marco lenses, Zooms etc etc

A true classic

 

[SgtSluggo]

I still love to shoot film. It just feels different with a look that is difficult to reproduce with a digital camera. I also like the physical process and the restriction it gives me.

@Slowpoke Slim What you probably remember is Kodak stopping the production of both the last kind of Kodachrome and the necessary chemicals needed to process it in color. If you still have Kodachrome film in a freezer somewhere there are labs that can process it in black and white.

I use Indie Film Lab or a local film lab to process my film.

@deserteagle71 If you scanned your slides yourself, you should try having a lab that specializes in slide scanning. There are scanners that are much higher resolution that what most people have at home. I wish I had a way to get that Kodachrome from you. It makes a beautiful B&W film.

 

[dmccarty]

Hi there guys! Sorry for bumping. Wanted to ask if it's still worth buying a camera for a present or it's enough to have an iPhone?

It totally depends on what you want to do. If you just want to take snap shots, share the with friends and post on the Internet, a smart phone camera is hard to beat. The vast majority of people using film cameras back in the day were not using an SLR. They were using point and shoot cameras and even disposable cameras.

If one wants to take images of birds, then it is DSLR time. One will need to buy or rent long lenses and need a good sensor, if we were talking film using fast film, to stop the motion of the bird AND fill the frame. The type of camera to us all gets down to the subject, conditions and how much effort one wants to put into photography.

I have hike for hours to try to get a picture. Got the picture but because the lens was not powerful enough did not get the quality I wanted. On the other hand, I have hiked for an hour or so, and then stood for hours barely moving to get some danged good images with a good DSLR and rented lens. A phone camera would not have worked.

Can't believe I posted on this discussion back in 2005! *** 17 *** YEARS ago!!!

 

[2manyrocks]

What about Olympus? Can someone recommend this brand?

IMO, tends to be more expensive relatively speaking than other brands such as Nikon or Canon, in my experience.

There are a lot of used DSLRs available for cheap from people who have switched to mirrorless cameras.

If you want the latest and greatest and don't mind the price tag, get a Nikon Z9.