Pipeline easement negotiating

[crackerjack222]

To oosik, yes there are hassles having to deal with oil co's and pipeline co's but having a few oil wells makes me a much better rancher.....:licking:
Besides the toys I can afford.:thumbsup:

 

[oosik]

crackerjack222 - Ahhh, yes. You see, I never thought of that. I guess I can see that for your inconvenience there can be joy. I did not read all the posts in this thread but the ones I read - there was no mention of wells on their property. That, alone, could make a substantial difference.

 

[SPIKER]

there are a couple Associations here in Northern Ohio run by a couple attorneys that have HQ in both Cleveland and Columbus. They rep ONLY land owners but in a way to pool the clients we pay set fee to join their association and a per acre fee. This is a one time fee and land owners agree to leasing under best circumstances for clients & oil company gets agreeable body of people to work with..

Mohican Land Owners association is one I belong to but the push stopped one county east of me... :/

The Daily Digger: Mohican Basin Landowners Waiting For the Right Offer

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Mohican-Basin-Landowners-Association/203258813034566

these are older links, like I said not much happened lately... BUT look for landowners association in your area and talk to the people local to you down that way..

Mark

 

[KretZ]

So things are starting to get more interesting. We have a lawyer representing us, hoping he does his job properly. I am cautiously optimistic, but there is one thing I really dont understand. Maybe someone here could add some insight. So the pipeline company is finally getting close to talking about what we consider fair compensation. So in one message they offer some carrot and show what I am guessing is the stick. They say basically here is the price we are offering, the pipeline company is in the process of having appraisals done on all the tracts of land belonging to people who have yet to sign. And they say they don't want it to come to that because that will be the new starting point for negotiations. Basically hinting that its going to be lower than what they just offered. My question is, why would they offer me more money and then say "take this now, or else its going to be less"? If there was a way they could pay me less, why wouldnt they just pay me less? Why offer more? Like I said, we have a lawyer who is handling this for us while we are overseas, but it just makes me curious. Thought maybe a TBN'r could make sense of this for me.

 

[dave1949]

Because time is money to the pipeline outfit as far as access to your land is concerned.

They could pay you more now, rather than (possibly) less later and save money overall.

 

[2LaneCruzer]

Because time is money to the pipeline outfit as far as access to your land is concerned.

They could pay you more now, rather than (possibly) less later and save money overall.

They are also saying, in a round about way, that we're willing to pay a reasonable amount now, but if we get the lawyers involved, we will only pay what we have to. It may also just be a subterfuge for them to get off easy.

 

[crackerjack222]

KretZ, the talk about appraisal is just talk. The landman is paid to do the dirty work in getting land owners signed up. You have to assume if a landman's lips are moving, he's lying. The options available to the pipeline co are eminent domain (which neither you nor they want to do) if they are intersate, going around you, or paying a fair price. To get a fair price you have to hold your ground (literally and figuratively). The first landowners to sign will get the lowest price and least favorable terms.

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

Inevitably, they have eminent domain and after lawyer costs by both sides, they can usually get the rights permitted for appraised cost.
I think if you work with them, they'll adjust the location a bit. Depending on type will determine depth. I would ask for them to come back a year later and make sure the ground is level as it was in the first place.
There are probably special circumstances for crop loss, etc. I would recommend you work with them rather than fight them. My .02 cents.

 

[forgeblast]

Because the Landman doesnt work for you they will tell you all sorts of things. They want to scare you into jumping into a company positive contract. Stick with the person on your side...your lawyer.

 

[RedNeckRacin]

He might also be telling you that your not the only option. They get paid to find the cheapest route to get a line in the ground.