Pix of FEL strengthening / stiffening mods?

[J_J]

I can almost bet that your cylinders have the capability to lift more, but the relief is set for some safety margin, not only for the tipping, but bending, stressing the front axle, etc. You can straighten the arms by securing one arm down and raising the other with the loader or another jack. You would need something secured in the ground, like a thousand lb cement block with a hook to fasten the chain. As far as adding bracing and welding, a good welder would know how to cross brace and weld strengthening plates to the arms.

 

[Secret Squirrel]

My brother had a welder come by and look at it yesterday. He said he can straighten it back to normal and he proposed some mods so that it does not happen again. The proposed mods include two gusset plates added to the cross member and a new cross member added on the back of the boom arms near the tip of the boom. I think this should solve the tipping problem.

Rusty

 

[Secret Squirrel]

I can almost bet that your cylinders have the capability to lift more, but the relief is set for some safety margin, not only for the tipping, but bending, stressing the front axle, etc. You can straighten the arms by securing one arm down and raising the other with the loader or another jack. You would need something secured in the ground, like a thousand lb cement block with a hook to fasten the chain. As far as adding bracing and welding, a good welder would know how to cross brace and weld strengthening plates to the arms.

Bingo JJ! Didn't see your post before answering the others, but what you are saying is exactly what that welder proposed in terms of stiffening the boom. You are also right that the relief valve is holding us back but no Mahindra dealer I've contacted is willing to set it any higher.

Rusty

 

[J_J]

If the tractor is out of warranty, just so what you have to do. If you think it is going to tip, just add the correct weight to the back. However one should realize, that this might affect the axles, axle housing, bearings, etc. A very few of have over bought things, and most of us realize to late, that we should have selected the other one. You could also install larger cylinders on the curl. If you can't pick something, say with a level bucket, perhaps the curl can tip the load back, and that will give more lift, sometimes. That is one reason that to lift something, I would let the chains, hook and fall down the back of the bucket, not ride on the lip of the bucket. I am not saying one is wrong here, but you will have more lift, and that is a fact.

 

[RWolf]

Yeh I can understand why a dealer won't mess with the relief. They might just become liable for damaged equipment or for injury because of the mod. Your asking alot of your tractor. Personally I'd be looking for a used fork lift maybe from a rental company or some place.

Good luck.

 

[Secret Squirrel]

If the tractor is out of warranty, just so what you have to do. If you think it is going to tip, just add the correct weight to the back. However one should realize, that this might affect the axles, axle housing, bearings, etc. A very few of have over bought things, and most of us realize to late, that we should have selected the other one. You could also install larger cylinders on the curl. If you can't pick something, say with a level bucket, perhaps the curl can tip the load back, and that will give more lift, sometimes. That is one reason that to lift something, I would let the chains, hook and fall down the back of the bucket, not ride on the lip of the bucket. I am not saying one is wrong here, but you will have more lift, and that is a fact.

I'm informed that adjusting pressure on my machine is not easy and that is probably an understatement. I don't think it's something we want to be attempting by ourselves at this time.

We already have so much weight on the backside of this tractor that we must keep those forks installed at all times or the front wheels can start to float.

Curl has not been an issue at all. Lack of lift has been the whole ballgame.

Rusty

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Yeh I can understand why a dealer won't mess with the relief. They might just become liable for damaged equipment or for injury because of the mod. Your asking alot of your tractor. Personally I'd be looking for a used fork lift maybe from a rental company or some place.

Good luck.

Another machine is not in the cards right now. We don't have the extra cash nor the free time to go used equipment shopping. Best we can do is fix what we've got asap and make the best of it.

Rusty

 

[J_J]

How about a picture of the loader forks, and especially a side shot

I don't see a big problem about adjusting a relief valve. Some have to be shimmed, and others are adjustable, and some are set/locked , of course you have to have a gage hooked up, and know the pressure of the pump. If you were to have a hydraulic technician come out to adjust the reliefs, you might have to sign a release for him to work on it, or he could tell you how to do it.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...hydraulic-relief-valve-adjustment-bx2230.html

 

[Secret Squirrel]

How about a picture of the loader forks, and especially a side shot

I don't see a big problem about adjusting a relief valve. Some have to be shimmed, and others are adjustable, and some are set/locked , of course you have to have a gage hooked up, and know the pressure of the pump. If you were to have a hydraulic technician come out to adjust the reliefs, you might have to sign a release for him to work on it, or he could tell you how to do it.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...hydraulic-relief-valve-adjustment-bx2230.html

There's nothing to see right now. From five feet away you can't tell a thing is wrong. I'd need to do a video with a loaded pallet on it for you to see the tilting and flexing of the boom.

The pressure relief valve adjustment on my tractor is not readily accessible. Adjusting it means taking apart a rats nest of pressure parts under the tractor. It is not a job for the faint of heart. It is not at all like that Kubota.

Rusty

 

[Gittyup]

You did not comment on the 3PH fork idea. Is it because you need to lift very high? I picked up a used worksaver rear fork that will go to about 6' on my little tractor. Of course you do need rear remotes. 3PH's generally can lift 30 - 50% more than a loader on the same tractor, and it will allow you to stop abusing your loader and front axle. It's probably safer too.