PLEASE HELP- what tractor should I buy for horse farm?

   / PLEASE HELP- what tractor should I buy for horse farm? #11  
There is a lot of money in horses, its just not for the owners. I only have two, but....that's enough.

Newbe2, what is your budget? If that is the primary limiting factor, that's where you have to start.
 
   / PLEASE HELP- what tractor should I buy for horse farm? #12  
I'm in NW Ohio between Bowling Green and Findlay. It's a heckuva tractor for the money. Think it's a TO 35, has fully hydraulic loader and comes with a blade. He told me $2k when I asked what he was selling it for. If I had the money sitting around right now, I'd buy it. If you want me to go look at it for you, I will.

I have never managed to make any money off my horses. They are for my pleasure really. I don't mind that they weigh over 1000lbs or that they poop! They eat relatively little for their size. I have 2 parrots that eat like their weight in food a day. Luckily they are small! But if they were the size of horses, they would be hard pets to feed. For many years I was heavily into eventing so my horses were my sports partners, not just pets.
 
   / PLEASE HELP- what tractor should I buy for horse farm? #13  
MY TC33 I feel is a great mix of little and "big" tractor. ie between the class 1 and III...(i wonder why they call it class II ;) )

anyway Id say its big enough to drag arena's but small enough to easyly get inside the barn to muck out stalls move hay etc... (with a 60" bucket)

but that size you really cant do much real farm stuff with it (other than mow feilds.) to small to bale, to small to run a decent size manuer spreder etc. (dont think it will can move round bales)

for more "farm" side of the horses id say you'd need something in the 50 hp rage.
 
   / PLEASE HELP- what tractor should I buy for horse farm? #14  
newbe2 said:
I am a 1st time tractor buyer and desperately need your help. I need a tractor for a horse farm to mow, drag the riding ring with harrow, move jumps and manure, and to attach a post pounder to.

1- How much HP do I need?
2- The soil is alful (rocky), which auger do I need?
3- What questions do I ask the seller?
4- Anything elde I need to know.

I saw a 1975 40 HP Massey Furg. 235 at a dealer, would that be suitable? Also, I was looking into the iseki 26 HP's. Both are around $5000.oo.

THANKS SO VERY MUCH for any advise.



I have Horses... and yes, they are a lot of work and do have an expense but, I would not take anything for the enjoyment I get from them.

In my area I have sold several horse owners the Jinma 254LE, 24 PTO HP. with the Koyker Loader /5 foot bucket. They use a 5 ft mower, drag, post hole digger, pull a manure spreader and a few with interest in a back hoe. I don't have any experience with pounding post in rockey soil??


Ronald
Ranch Hand Supply
 
   / PLEASE HELP- what tractor should I buy for horse farm? #15  
I hate to disagree with everyone on the FEL, but mine is off 95% of the time and my show barn stalls 16 horses.

The size of tractor you need depends on the implements you plan to use. I operated for years with an old Ford 1700 (27hp) with no FEL. Other than a tiller & brushhog, the hardest thing it did was drag a rotary harrow around the arena.

When I bought a 5' TR3 Arena Rake I had to use my JD 5225 in the arena. I still pull the manure spreader with the little Ford. With horses it's mostly bedding anyway.

The horses get turned out in 11 100' X 250' paddocks. Mares are in two bigger pastures. They all keep the grass mowed and the only time I have to go in the paddocks is to fertilize, spray, and drag when I rest the paddock. I'll till it down and reseed if it gets too bad, but that's not very often.

With 15 acres, you can do everything with a small frame tractor and 48" implements. Worry about the implements you need before you worry about the tractor. They do all the work, the tractor just drags them around and provides the rotating power.

The configuration of your barn would actually determine the value of a FEL. If you can't get in there to muck the stalls directly into the FEL it won't have much value in the barn. We just have muck buckets on wheels and park the spreader in back of the barn. Although I don't have to worry about it freezing like you will......you may need one just to work your winter manure pile in the spring......
 
   / PLEASE HELP- what tractor should I buy for horse farm? #16  
aesanders said:
Also, I wouldn't use a post pounder with a smaller tractor. It'll shake it apart in no time.
This is not true. I've set over 200, 4" x 4" x 8' PT posts with my TC25D (NH Class II tractor) and almost as many T posts and my tractor is just fine. The post driver sits on the ground and the primary purpose of the tractor is to supply the hydraulics to raise the ram and the 3ph to transport the driver.

We have 3 horses and the aisle in our barn is 12 feet wide. I pull the tractor into the aisle, place the FEL right at the stall opening, toss the cleanings into the bucket and when it's full, I back out and dump it. The TC25D, with the ROPS up, just clears the ceiling of the aisle. The 12 foot width is OK with the TC25D, but I wouldn't want a wider, or a taller, tractor in the barn.
 
   / PLEASE HELP- what tractor should I buy for horse farm? #17  
My barn aisle is 15 feet wide and I still wouldn't want a bigger tractor for what I do with it. I also get my shavings from a friend with a pallet company (pine, not oak) so they aren't in bags. They get picked up with a neighbor's dump truck and dumped into an overhang. From there I scoop with the loader, dump them into the stalls and spread with a rake. I also often am forced to accumulate manure for awhile until the farm field behind me is empty before I can spread. Last year I had soybeans and as soon as he harvested, he planted wheat so I was stuck for over a year. Had quite a pile come July to load into the spreader. It is not often I have to mow my pasture but some years I do. We have had a lot of heavy rain this summer and I did it this year. Last year we had a drought. I am, however, considering buying a second tractor for pulling the spreader. Right now, I pull it with my truck.
 
   / PLEASE HELP- what tractor should I buy for horse farm? #18  
I lived in NJ (and spent a lot of time in PA) for 14 years so I'm pretty familier with winter manure piles. Fortunately down here we don't have that problem. We just dump directly into the spreader and when it's full we just spread it. I've got a hay field that I spread on in the winter and a pasture that I use in the summer. The last time I had to put the FEL on was when my daughter put about 200 lbs of old feed in a trash container and I couldn't pick it up to put it in the dumpster. However, the rest of the time the FEL just gets in my way.

I agree with Mike PA on the post pounder, I've got a friend that uses one on a 30hp JD and puts in T-posts with the FEL. I use an auger 'cause I'm in sandy loam.

Newbe2, you probably need to be more specific about your place.

Do you have fencing or are you starting fresh? I'm not sure what a post pounder costs but I know my auger goes for about a $1000 new.

Flat or hilly (you in the mountains or the flat part in the middle)?

How many horses? 15 Acres won't give you a lot of manure spreading space.

How's your barn configured? Aisle width/height

What's your arena footing (match the drag to it) A chain harrow won't give you good footing for jumping. They're only good for breaking up manure piles in a pasture. Rotary harrows work ok in sand, for loam the TR-3 is the best I've found.

You may want to invest in some PVC jumps. They're not that expensive, you don't need a tractor to move them, and they're no maintenance.

You'll likely spend as much or more for the right implements as you will for the tractor.
 
   / PLEASE HELP- what tractor should I buy for horse farm? #19  
I made jumps from treated posts and bought pvc round "rails" from a home improvement store. I have some that are 8', 10' and 12'. I put stripes on them with contact paper. I also have some blue plastic 55 gal drums since those are a common jump you see in eventing. I ride and jump in my pasture, on grass, but that is what I jumped on in the cross country portion of eventing. I am on clay and what I have to do is drag a disc harrow sometimes to level out hoofprints that get made in the winter or whenever the ground is wet. Since that is also my pasture I can't use anything that will rip all the grass out, too. I have a small disc that I can weight down that will do it with several passes. My neighbor has one with hydraulics that works quite a bit faster and he just does it lightly. Neither of us has a sand arena but I am wondering how a landscape rake would work on that as opposed to an arena drag, which is considerably more expensive?

Are you in a farming area where you can spread manure in fields when they aren't in use for crops? If so it is possible you will be storing manure for long periods of time also. The farmers will give you permission to spread, anything that can help fertilize their crops they will gladly take.

I use my loader everyday for mucking, but if you won't be it may not be necessary. Some people just put the spreader on their tractor and park it in the barn aisle and dump their muck tubs right into it. Since I can't always spread that wouldn't be the best set up for me. Not only that, but I don't want that manure pile too close to the barn so I used to carry those tubs a good long way. Now that I have the tractor I built a giant 3 sided compost bin in my back yard to put it in when I can't spread. It is easy to get to with the tractor, not too close to the barn and is convenient for loading the spreader and getting that into the field when it's empty. Mowing with a loader takes some practice but I just back into corners to get that grass mowed. Mine is not quick attach.

As for post pounders, I have no experience with them myself, but a friend used to work for Ramm fence and I know they use them on fencing they install. I could ask them about what size tractor they are using. I actually dug most of my post holes by hand but I was young (and kind of poor) then. A PHD on a tractor seems to work fine here and my soil is kind of rocky, mostly limestone. Sometimes I hit one and have to dislodge it and pull it out. I also sometimes hit old, clay drainage tile.

I think to advise you best, we will need to know all the uses you want from a tractor. Mine had to be a multi-use machine: stalls, mowing, driveway leveling, post hole digger, bale stacker. If I buy that second tractor for the spreader it will likely be an old, and cheap tractor. I have a friend with an old Farmall he doesn't really want who is willing to sell it to me with the implements for $1000. I don't need most of the implements he has and would sell those, which gets me a super cheap tractor for pulling the spreader. So there is that possibility for you also. Maybe one tractor small enough to do barn chores and a bigger one that could do other things?
 
   / PLEASE HELP- what tractor should I buy for horse farm? #20  
Jump on that old Farmall Roxynoodle! You sure can't find deals like that down here. I never thought about pulling a disc in my paddocks. Mine is notched and I always thought it was too agressive. The tiller leaves everything smooth and blends the manure right in. You might want to look around for one, it probably saves me more time/work than anything else.

What do you use your horses for Newbe2? Roxynoodle makes some good points if you're into eventing. My world is hunter/jumpers so areas and footing are more inportant to me.
 

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