PO'd at police

[mustangsallysdad]

I can sympathize with you being upset. But upset at yourself. Why didn't you put the seatbelt on? Don't you know better? If that had been on then you would not have been stopped, wouldn't be going to court for anything and no time wasted.

That said. I am against the seat belt law. It's just a revenue raising move by government.

Also, I always wear my seat belt because I feel nekked without it. :ashamed:

There are a lot of laws that I'm against...I still have to abide by them.

 

[bstrom]

Yeah, I agree that the insurance card thing is a bit much. A lot of people forget to put that thing in there especially if you get one every 6 months in some states. I've been let off on that before a couple of times. Must have been a slow day.

 

[dave1949]

Could you just have called or had him call the insurance company to verify it is up-to-date? And if so, it would have been a bit too picky to have given you a ticket for it. Our tax dollars should be geared towards strict enforcement and punishment of more important crimes than worrying a random person with insurance issues as yours - especially if the date was within that short of time period. It would be more beneficial to society for the police to involve their time with speeding vehicles, running red lights, robberies, and most importantly, voilence. That would would make more people feel better knowing their law enforcement is trying to protect them from these things instead of the petty things occupying the officer's time. Who's going to feel protected knowing a cop gave you a ticket for YOUR seatbelt and insurance which is most likely current?

I must agree wearing the seatbelt is a good idea. I think this may be a national 'click it or ticket' month. They are all over the seatbelt thing.

I also have some agreement with kubob, for our law enforcement dollars, is this the best use? I understand the mission to promote public safety - including you not going through the windshield sans seatbelt.

You are aggravated and inconvenienced but bottom line, you (like me ) may be a more conscientous seatbelt user in the future. While you are in traffic court, you will witness others whose driving issues will make yours seem very minor.

At any given time, scofflaws will be commiting heinous acts for which there will be no police person present and they won't be punished. You were the low hanging fruit that got 'picked'. For that, you have my sympathy.
Dave.

 

[Pops15]

Sounds like someone has a Barney Fife complex.
See if you can fax a copy of your insurance card to the circuit clerk and avoid the trip to court. You may have to include a notorized statement from your insurance agent saying you had insurance on the date the ticket was issued. If you can't avoid going to court respectfully tell the judge that you offered to produce the insurance card within 5 minutes but the officer refused, and you think this is a waste of the court's, the officer's, and your time. I suspect the judge will agree with you. I have a friend that's a judge and he has little patience when issues are brought to court that don't need to be. there's a huge backlog of court cases. BTW the officer will have to be in court. If he's not you can ask that the seatbelt ticket be thrown out.

 

[mjarrels]

Starting 1 July 2010, in Virginia it will be taxation by cops. What were once minor traffic violations will now be wreckless driving with huge increases in court cost and fines.

mark

 

[Pops15]

I must agree wearing the seatbelt is a good idea. I think this may be a national 'click it or ticket' month. They are all over the seatbelt thing.

I also have some agreement with kubob, for our law enforcement dollars, is this the best use? I understand the mission to promote public safety - including you not going through the windshield sans seatbelt.

You are aggravated and inconvenienced but bottom line, you (like me ) may be a more conscientous seatbelt user in the future. While you are in traffic court, you will witness others whose driving issues will make yours seem very minor.

At any given time, scofflaws will be commiting heinous acts for which there will be no police person present and they won't be punished. You were the low hanging fruit that got 'picked'. For that, you have my sympathy.
Dave.

I have a friend that got a speeding ticket and went to court. When his case was finally called the judge asked if he had legal representation. He replied that he was representing himself. The judge asked how he wanted to plea. He said guilty but I'd like to make a short statement. The judge said ok. He made a quick statement about the previous cases he'd seen in court that day. Running red lights, fleeing and alluding, several DUI's, several for no insurance, driving without a license, etc, etc. He then said his speeding ticket for 7 over seemed minor in comparison. The judge agreed and ordered court supervision (if no more tickets within 6 or 12 months the conviction would be removed from his record) and ordered him to pay court costs of $10.

 

[Pops15]

Starting 1 July 2010, in Virginia it will be taxation by cops. What were once minor traffic violations will now be wreckless driving with huge increases in court cost and fines.

mark

I think thats coming to other areas. I heard something on the radio about a state commission on wreckless and dangerous driving.

 

[dave1949]

I have a friend that got a speeding ticket and went to court. When his case was finally called the judge asked if he had legal representation. He replied that he was representing himself. The judge asked how he wanted to plea. He said guilty but I'd like to make a short statement. The judge said ok. He made a quick statement about the previous cases he'd seen in court that day. Running red lights, fleeing and alluding, several DUI's, several for no insurance, driving without a license, etc, etc. He then said his speeding ticket for 7 over seemed minor in comparison. The judge agreed and ordered court supervision (if no more tickets within 6 or 12 months the conviction would be removed from his record) and ordered him to pay court costs of $10.

I like those kinds of endings. :laughing: Your friend was willing to pay his fine but had the good idea to speak his mind no doubt.
Dave.

 

[irwin]

It cost me two tickets.. total of about $100.00 before I started to "click it" each and every time I get in my car.
Do I think this is constitutionally legal? .. no.
Do I think the police have too many laws to enforce that are unconstitutional? ..yes.
Do I think the cop was overdoing it about the insurance card? ..yes.
Does what I think have anything to do with the facts? ..no.
Did I complained when I got the tickets? ..yes.
Am I better off with a seatbelt on? .. yes.... but...
The "but" is our freedoms are not free, our right to endanger ourselves and others is not a right we have.. dang, I wish I was truly free..I am not, the property taxes I pay prove it. The land I bought is not really mine.

But I can drive on my property without a seatbelt on and without getting fined... except now I'm so use to putting it on..I do it without thinking.

 

[SPYDERLK]

Starting 1 July 2010, in Virginia it will be taxation by cops. What were once minor traffic violations will now be wreckless driving with huge increases in court cost and fines.

mark

Can you elaborate on this a little? I havnt heard anything about this. Have reckless driving laws changed? :confused2: