Pole barn Questions

[tjse9006]

I'm in the early stages of planning a pole barn build for next summer. I have a couple of questions. When ordering 6X6 posts, do I need to order extra to frame out for the doors or is there another way? Would it be ok to build in stages or am I better off waiting to have enough money for all the material before starting to build. I was thinking 3 stages. First stage is doing all the frasming, second the roof and third siding. There may be a few months between phases. It that Ok? Thanks! TC

 

[brin]

When I have built my pole buildings we always did it from start to finish in one fell swoop. There was just a thread on here where a fella set his 6X6 poles and left them for awhile and some of them warped and they were pressure treated. You might try a search here to find that thread...Try searching for Pole building or warped posts...There will be many here with advice...

 

[Kyle241]

The posts unfortunately can warp but it depends on how far you plan on going in stage 1. If you frame it out correctly, your 6x6's should not warp but if you leave them laying around for too long they will. I would suggest trying to frame and roof if you can that way you have a building at least to store things under.

 

[Army grunt]

I agree the 6x6es will look like pretzels if you don't tie them together with ribbon boards an "x" ties , I would also run horizontal ribbon boards you'll apply your siding on later.Your doors an windows can be framed with what ever remembering it will be painted an, or covered with something to keep weather off.
There have been several build on this forum. You'll get all the advice you need.
Just rember some guys have lots of $$ers so you might need to rethink some suggestions.Rember the only part that needs to be pt is whats burried in the ground. you can easley burry 6x6 say 6footers an splice a 6x6 fir, hem. or what ever a local saw mill has to offer. just saying
Army Grunt

 

[Western]

I see quite a few half finished or just framed out shops as I drive round. Point I am making is, since things have a way of changing, new ideas, or whatever you don't want a "frame" staring you in the face everyday, at least I wouldn't.

I like Kyles idea, get the materials together to at least get it under roof somewhat, depending on your eave, this may be a PITA latter though when adding the siding. JMO

 

[Craig Clayton]

I built a 32 foot x 60 foot pole barn to plans from the Canadian AG service and had every stage checked by the building inspector. It took from Spring to late Fall to get the roof and all the siding on. You do not want to leave your roof truss lumber exposed for too long as it does get wet. In my area the concrete pads are to be 4 foot below the surface to the top, so therefore I had to bore 4 foot 6 inch because the pad was to be 6 inch thick.
The only concern the inspector had is I called him to check the finish 6inch pads before the posts went in and he had wanted to see the 4 foot 6 inch hole. So I said I would hammer drill any pad through with a 3/8 th drill in stages to prove that it was 6 inch thick. He left . He returned to check the framing and all was well.
Windy days will take all the fun out of roofing steel.

Craig Clayton

 

[BeezFun]

I'm in the early stages of planning a pole barn build for next summer. I have a couple of questions. When ordering 6X6 posts, do I need to order extra to frame out for the doors or is there another way? Would it be ok to build in stages or am I better off waiting to have enough money for all the material before starting to build. I was thinking 3 stages. First stage is doing all the frasming, second the roof and third siding. There may be a few months between phases. It that Ok? Thanks! TC

You might look at the kits that use metal trusses, they'll deliver as much as you can afford. I'd get poles, roof and bracing up in first phase, better to keep things dry if you can. If you're doing it yourself the metal trusses are easier to handle and give you more headroom, they also have a nice design that sits right on top of 6x6 post and attaches easily. Two men and a trained chimp can set them off ladders or scaffolding unless the span is huge. They also hold your girts on edge in metal brackets, makes it easier to get the roof on.

 

[SPIKER]

if you are getting solid 6x6 treated they will warp if you get laminated beams they will not warp as bad.

my best advice is to get it done ASAP to dry in stage (roof & walls) all up.

what I did took 8 more years to get it all filled to grade and concrete in...
mark

 

[garren]

I see quite a few half finished or just framed out shops as I drive round. Point I am making is, since things have a way of changing, new ideas, or whatever you don't want a "frame" staring you in the face everyday, at least I wouldn't.

I have to agree. This is what I went through. I built my 4 bay shop in phases because money was tight and the plan was to finish in about 18 months...In "real life math" 18 months = 3 years. I sure was tired of looking at that thing!

I used steel so I can't comment on pole warpage... but I've seen it happen to other people.
My phases were:
1. Poles and slab - looked at this for a year..but it made a nice patio.
2. Framework - got tired of looking at this in a hurry! Actually was wishing I had never started this project!
3. Skin - Didn't mind looking at the skin to much.
4. Trim, doors and electrical - Well this sux. All finished but cant get inside without the approach
5. Drive approach - Finally finished!

 

[ns_in_tex]

We were able to get used telephone poles (for free) to build ours. We did not have any warping problems. Used it as an open hay shed for 16 years before walling it up. We did have 9' overhang though.