Pole Barn: windows, doors, siding..

[cowboydoc]

You measure it and cut it to fit. It's that simple. Dont' make it hard. That's why I like putting the windows in after the siding is up. Are you close to a Menards at all? They have a free pole barn building book for people that don't know how to build one that is very straight forward.

 

[mopower440]

no menards around here, only 84 lumber, lowes and home depot..either way, putting them in before or after, i still dont understand how you would get the cut out figure with the built in J-channel, if you were to cut the hole in the tin the same size as the outside of the j-channel, the hole would be too big, the tin has to be cut slightly smaller than the outside of the j-channel so that it will be tucked in the J-channel a little...maybe im not asking it right..? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif also, the windows are only 2 feet wide, the tin is 3 feet wide, so, unless i start a piece of tin on the side of a window, i would have to cut the hole in the tin and fit it around the J-channel so it would set inside of the channel somehow, man, this is hard to explain what im trying to get at, wish one of you guys lived close by so i could show you.. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[Mark_in_IN]

mopower440 you are correct. I see where your comming from I think it would be hard to cut the steel after it is up. I would put in the window first then put up the steel around the window.

cowboydoc Were do you get the free book at Menards I'm interested in it? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[cowboydoc]

mopower,

You need to do some planning. This is why most buildings have plans. Obviously you can't put a 2' windown in a 3' piece of tin if the j-channel is already up. Plan out your building as far as where the windows will go. Make the window come out on a seam so that you can it to fit. You really need to either get some help on this from someone who can show you the basics or you need to go buy some books and learn a little more. Then draw up some preliminary plans and go from there. Plan out where each piece of tin is going to go, where the doors are going to go, what material you are going to need, etc. Unless you have alot of experience trying to build on the fly just leads to one mistake after another.

 

[rambler]

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Generally a seam between tin happens somewhere in the window, and you end up cutting a chunk out of the 2 pieces of tin (remove a 'C' shaped piece from each tin). Should a window somehow fall right in the middle of 1 piece of tin, you didn't plan it right, but you will need to cut one side out as wide as the window (a larger 'C' shaped piece) so you can slip the tin over the window from one side, and then use a piece of scrap tin to fill in beside the window the extra part that was removed.

--->Paul

 

[mopower440]

I do have plans and the door is already framed up, all i have left to do before actually installing the windows and the tin is framing up the RO's of the windows, so i take it when i start the tin, i start it at one end and work accross, same as i did the roof? I thought i read somewhere that you were supposed to install the first piece of tin at a window..? but that doesnt make any sense at all..i see what you are saying about maybe starting the tin at the corner and working in and then framing up the RO for the window so it will fall between 2 pieces of tin, that way the tin can be slid into the built in J-channel on the window, where as it wouldnt work if the window went into 1 piece of tin..

 

[mopower440]

What do you all use for corner trim? I see they have the metal type that just wraps around the corner, shaped like 'L' and they also have some that installs under the siding and then comes out and around, usually vinyl..kinda like a back to back J-channel.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

If you are using metal siding then go with the metal outside corners that nail on. The vinyl corners are for vinyl siding like you would use on your house. I have never seen anyone use it on a metal building before but that doesn't mean someone hasn't.

 

[mopower440]

Thanks, i was just wondering because i saw a few buildings where the metal corner trim is just nailed on and it didnt look as good to me with the nails showing, but it will be ok.
Got my windows today, they are 2 feet wide by 3 feet tall, wondering how far from the floor do you all usually start the window, how far between the floor and the bottom of the window i should say?.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

You can set the windows how you like (don't know your building codes but try to make sure you set them so the cross bar does not land in your field of vision). If the window is 3' tall, anything over 4' off the floor to the bottom of the window would be ok.

As for nailing on your corners, what difference does it make if your metal corners show nails when your entire building (if steel sides) shows every nail already?