Pole Building Ideas?

[One Acre Farm]

I am moving my farm business to a long term lease property (think 7-10 years) and need to put up a small pole building/metal bldg. I have been doing some research on this site as well as the web in general and am getting some good ideas.
The building will be used as an office, a place to store tools, a place to keep storable vegetables, (onions, garlic etc) and a place to get out of the sun and eat lunch.

In terms of size, I am thinking 20x20 at the smallest, and perhaps as big as 24x32.


Some questions:

1. Since I know I will not be there forever, does it make sense to pay for a concrete floor or just use gravel?

2. Which type of building material is easier to take down and move?

3. Are there some types of styles that are move conducive to better work flow. For example, I am thinking a wider structure with 2 garage doors even if it is not as long is better then a narrow bldg with one door that is long so that tools do not get stuck in the way back never to be seen again.

Any ideas would be helpful.

 

[Kays Supply]

I have seen some metal buildings about the size you are talking about, that are the metal carports with ends and sides. They make them taller to accept garage doors and walkin doors. They go up quick and can been taken down and moved.

 

[smstonypoint]

Just a thought.

I suppose that property tax laws vary across counties/states, but in the county in which my farm is located (NC), carports/metal buildings that are not permanently attached are not subject to property taxes.

Steve

Edit -- Oops, just reread you post and saw that the building is going to be on leased property. I'm not sure about the property tax consequences for the lessor.

 

[jgrreed]

Not sure where you live climate-wise, but would a poly-tarp style building work for you??

Check out HiQual, there very tough, cost effective, easy to erect, and one of their product lines can be dismantled in less than a day and taken away. There's no way to insulate them though.

-Jer.

 

[whistlepig]

You may want to consider a ready made building. This is something you could pick up and move easily. I don't think you will like a gravel floor but you could set the building up so that concrete can be an option later.

 

[kennyd]

I am moving my farm business to a long term lease property (think 7-10 years) and need to put up a small pole building/metal bldg. I have been doing some research on this site as well as the web in general and am getting some good ideas.
The building will be used as an office, a place to store tools, a place to keep storable vegetables, (onions, garlic etc) and a place to get out of the sun and eat lunch.

In terms of size, I am thinking 20x20 at the smallest, and perhaps as big as 24x32.


Some questions:

1. Since I know I will not be there forever, does it make sense to pay for a concrete floor or just use gravel?

2. Which type of building material is easier to take down and move?

3. Are there some types of styles that are move conducive to better work flow. For example, I am thinking a wider structure with 2 garage doors even if it is not as long is better then a narrow bldg with one door that is long so that tools do not get stuck in the way back never to be seen again.

Any ideas would be helpful.

Take a look at the albums linked in my signature, I had a 24x36 built by a Amish/Mennonite company for about what I could by materials for. Where in MD are you?

 

[buckeyefarmer]

His web site says he has a CSA in montgomery county. I don't know what you have to do to put a taxable structure on rental property. I would go with a couple sheds on skids, one for an office and one for storage, so they can easily be moved later. I know a builder friend of mine converted a shed of his into his office, complete with sliding door, insulated, AC window unit, electric, etc.

 

[ITHINKICAN]

The first thing I'd do is communicate with the Owner/Landlord.

He might not support your idea - you might learn the landlord does not want any improvement on his land - he may not want the added tax burden - he may be reassessed depending on the circumstance(s).

If he does support your idea - he may require a certain type of structure which will then limit your options - he might only give you one choice - it might not be the choice you were leaning towards.

He may require that you show him paid receipts or release of liens. There are a few possible implications of a renter making improvements on land he does not own.

The other possibility is that he has had a similar idea of wanting a structure. He may pay for the material and let you pay for the labor. He will want the improvement left behind when you leave - but it might still be worth it (financially) for both of you.

If it were me - I'd start with communicating the idea with the Landlor/Owner. :thumbsup:

 

[One Acre Farm]

Take a look at the albums linked in my signature, I had a 24x36 built by a Amish/Mennonite company for about what I could by materials for. Where in MD are you?

I would be interested to hear the name of the amish company you used, there are so many companies out there, if you know a good one, I would consider it first.

 

[kennyd]

I would be interested to hear the name of the amish company you used, there are so many companies out there, if you know a good one, I would consider it first.

If you looked through the albums, I have a close up picture of their sign.

 

[Iplayfarmer]

Two words...

Cargo Container

This would meet all of your needs. It's cheap and abundant. It's weatherproof, lockable, moveable. If you really want to get creative, buy two and fabricate a roof that goes between them.

 

[jgrreed]

True on the Sea Can. They work very well. Ugly as all-get-out, but whatever.

-Jer.

 

[Iplayfarmer]

True on the Sea Can. They work very well. Ugly as all-get-out, but whatever.

-Jer.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You'll never get the same ambiance as a vintage New England farmstead barn, but with a little creativity you can get better than the plopped-one-night-on-a-construction-site look...

 

[jgrreed]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You'll never get the same ambiance as a vintage New England farmstead barn, but with a little creativity you can get better than the plopped-one-night-on-a-construction-site look...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Business-f...ontainers-bins-trolleys/auction-320999030.htm

Well done!! That looks nice!

-Jer.

 

[Eagleview]

I would also go with shipping containers , Travel Lodge even use them for quick build motels now .

As they are not fixed to the property , they do not require building permits and all the associated fees either (in Australia anyway) .

$10K would get you something setup like this and you can sell it and get your money back or take it with you when you leave .

 

[Iplayfarmer]

Well done!! That looks nice!

-Jer.

Make sure you understand that's not my barn (I wish it was). It's a picture I found on the internet.

 

[CTW]

I like the Corten steel used on these sea containers and the super thick wood that is used on the floors, however, I wonder about the safety aspect of walking into one of these containers after being sealed up for a while during the hot summer months due to the risk of breathing whatever is off gasing from the wood floor itself. Many, many different commodities are shipped all over the world from auto parts to the worst 6.1 poisons, and that includes those not approved here in the USA. I agree these containers are extremely strong and are routinely stacked 13 high but I tend to believe that one might consider replacing the old wood with some new stuff. You may not notice any effects of exposure right away, maybe later after the damage is done. Just a thought.

 

[Eagleview]

This is one of Travellodge' shipping container motels going up . They just build a big rack out of universal beams and slide them in .

 

[Yandaddy1110]

I currently have a building permit for a shipping container building that Im constructing. 2 40' containers spaced 14' apart on post footings. Then span the the entire thing with 30' span roof trusses, asphalt shingles, soffits,a few rollup doors and vinyl windows. Thats a 30'x40' building,do it yourself priced @ about 10k:thumbsup:

 

[SOS]

I would be interested to hear the name of the amish company you used, there are so many companies out there, if you know a good one, I would consider it first.

I just contracted to Pioneer Pole Buildings and they are doing a fantastic job. I'm in Virginia and they are near Harrisburg PA.
Here is a picture after one day. (30 by 40)