Portable Generators

/ Portable Generators #164  
Yanmar makes "portable" diesel generators. They run at 3,600rpm. (YDG5500 | Yanmar USA) The YDG5500 weighs 243 lbs.

Dry weight of a Honda EM6500 is 243 lbs.
Honda EM65S Model Info | Deluxe 65 Watt Portable Generator | Honda Generators
Take your pick.

Around here, if people have frequent outages and heat with oil, they will favor diesel because they store lots of fuel.

The vast majority of whole house are Propane or NG, and vast majority of portables are gas.

Yes, stove oil is basically #2 diesel fuel. I have put many hundreds of hours on diesel tractors running stove oil. A generator plumbed to run off of the heating oil tank would be a great solution for a high hour generator.

I have been watching YouTube videos of guys who have built home generators using Lister-Petter diesels. They are still manufactured in India. The small ones are hand start and will run on anything that will pour. At 800 rpm they will run virtually forever.
 
/ Portable Generators #165  
Yes, stove oil is basically #2 diesel fuel. I have put many hundreds of hours on diesel tractors running stove oil. A generator plumbed to run off of the heating oil tank would be a great solution for a high hour generator.

I have been watching YouTube videos of guys who have built home generators using Lister-Petter diesels. They are still manufactured in India. The small ones are hand start and will run on anything that will pour. At 800 rpm they will run virtually forever.



Better to find an original British built unit. The East Indian built units require complete disassembly , cleaning, blue print machining some components to spec, glyptol painting and a few components updated such as an offset idler gear shaft for the Lister.
 
/ Portable Generators #166  
I've been debating buying a PTO generator vs a gas powered one. I like the idea of not having an extra small gas engine around to maintain but not sure if I'd want to tie up the tractor during a power outage.
 
/ Portable Generators #167  
I've been debating buying a PTO generator vs a gas powered one. I like the idea of not having an extra small gas engine around to maintain but not sure if I'd want to tie up the tractor during a power outage.
I vote for gas... more options. It's a no brainer for my needs.
 
/ Portable Generators #168  
I've been debating buying a PTO generator vs a gas powered one. I like the idea of not having an extra small gas engine around to maintain but not sure if I'd want to tie up the tractor during a power outage.

I don't see that as much of a consideration. During an outage you only use a tractor for a few hours a day, and in most climates you only use a generator for a few hours a day. The hassle is getting out there in lousy conditions and changing implements. Also, small utility tractor engines are not big enough to suit the big generator crew. You need 45 PTO hp (~50 engine hp) to make 22 kw, and the frequency is going to vary a lot with load. Tractors are not designed to run at a precise RPM. However, if you need 100 kw for your milking operation, a big tractor PTO generator is just what you should looking at. You have several tractors anyway. ;)
 
/ Portable Generators #169  
Better to find an original British built unit. The East Indian built units require complete disassembly , cleaning, blue print machining some components to spec, glyptol painting and a few components updated such as an offset idler gear shaft for the Lister.

You don't need to go to Britain. There are plenty of US made Lister diesels around. They were the stationary power plant standard until WWII. If you buy an old one, you are going to rebuild it just like the Hindu models. Or you could just buy a restored endine from an antique power fair, but it would be cheaper just to buy a new diesel from the Chinese.
 
/ Portable Generators #170  
I don't see that as much of a consideration. During an outage you only use a tractor for a few hours a day, and in most climates you only use a generator for a few hours a day. The hassle is getting out there in lousy conditions and changing implements. Also, small utility tractor engines are not big enough to suit the big generator crew. You need 45 PTO hp (~50 engine hp) to make 22 kw, and the frequency is going to vary a lot with load. Tractors are not designed to run at a precise RPM. However, if you need 100 kw for your milking operation, a big tractor PTO generator is just what you should looking at. You have several tractors anyway. ;)
Why do you automatically think he needs 22kw???

I sure don't, in fact I don't even need the 15kw my pto genset is rated at, I just bought one that big so I could run my welder/compressor/lights and grinder when I'm away from the shop....and I've not even done that.

In fact, most times, I run my pto genset with a smaller tractor than the op, that asked the question, owns...

SR
 

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