Portable Water Wagon Project

[johnday]

Thanks Chris for cleaning the diagram up and making it presentable. My Runish is kind of hard to read sometimes. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Theowegian]

I see johnday has already posted a clear diagram. I was working on it at the same time. But here is my version.

My set up is on top of the page and johnday's setup is shown at the bottom of the page.

hope this helps.

edit: oops, I forgot to draw in an expansion joint at the pump discharge line. That is an important joint.
dwight

dwight

 

[johnday]

Dwight; We're almost there. On my version of the diagram you posted, if you were to put valve 005 between the pump and the pump discharge valve 004, you'd be able to control discharge pressure and flow by throttling valves 004 and 005. If you had too much flow and or pressure, open valve 005 and recirc back to the tank. I said a globe valve would be the best type for 005, but a ball/cock valve would be fine too for the purposes intended. Now if you really wanted to get crafty, you drill an orifice in valve 005 vavle seat, and always have a flow back to the tank. I don't think you need to get that elaborate tho, we're not talking 4200#psi and 3,000,000 pounds per hour flow. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Theowegian]

johnday.

Thank you very much for helping me with this project.

I updated my sketch and I think I now understand your recommendation.

Did I get it right this time?

dwight

 

[johnday]

Dwight; There ya go!!! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gifI really like the idea of the waterwagon. It sure is better than hauling H2O by the bucket for 1/4 mile. I can see myself using a setup like this "upnorth" in the not too distant future. I already have a small 100gal PCO tank that I used to haul water for RV use. It's much smaller than your tank ofcourse, but like I said, I've already got it. Glad to have helped!! Any more questions, just ask. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[cp1969]

You steered me to this thread from my post over in trailers so I will make a couple comments here.

It looks to me like you are filling your tank from the bottom, correct? I never thought of that because I am so accustomed to water trucks and the like that are prohibited from doing that when connected to city water. They have to have a standpipe that is above the fill opening of the tank to ensure that no tank water can ever re-enter the city water system, even fire hydrants. I guess in our case, since we are filling from ponds and creeks, it is a moot point--we can do whatever we want. I am going to think about doing what you did although my pump is not going to stay with the trailer.

Anyway, very nice job. Can I borrow it? I'll come get it...I'm only ninety miles away.

 

[Theowegian]

Yes, I fill from the bottom!
And thanks for replying to this post. I didnt know that trucks filling from city water are prohibited from filling from the bottom. . . makes sense.
But from a pond, it works fine.
You'll be amazed how fast that little centrifugal pump will fill a tank! I can fill the 325 gallons in about 3 minutes or so. BUt sometimes I have problems getting a "prime", tho, I admit.
enjoy!

 

[cp1969]

It will be good to be able to load fast. The best place for me to load is going to be sitting on an iron bridge. I measured the distance from the bridge to the water--14 feet. It is a very lightly used road but I will still need to load quick as I will be blocking the road. If that becomes a problem, there is a low water bridge about 2.5 miles away on a dead end road that I will use. I would only have to lift the water a few feet there.

I have read it can take a couple minutes for these pumps to prime themselves. Is it going to be much worse when lifting 14 feet?

 

[gabby]

I made this water wagon out of a larger military trailer with a mobile home axle under it. It holds 550 gallons. It has a hydraulic water pump. I fill it with a 2-inch overhead pipe so I can't comment on self-filling with the pump.

The hydraulic water pump is great. It's quiet, gpm is good, and best of all I turn it on and off with the remote hydraulic lever. I paid about $350 for it several years ago. I have done lots of things with it, including fighting fire. It sprays right, left, center, or through a garden hose connection. I made spray nozzles by sawing a slit in PVC caps. They're threaded so I can change them. I use very thin slits to spray herbicides.
gabby

 

[PineRidge]

Pretty neat Gabby! I would really like to see a picture of the nozzles that you made. Are you ever concerned with the residual water or herbicide that may be left in your pump when not in use? If it were mine, think I would be temped to use cam & groove fittings on the inlet and outlet of the pump and quick connects on the hydraulic lines so you could better clean the pump and add 50/50 mix of water and anti-freeze to protect it further when not in use. (just a suggestion)