Post COVID CUT tractoring “truths”

[rScotty]

(SNIP) The Deere dealer could not tell me the advantages of his offering, only about how stupid I’d be to buy a Kubota. I felt if you can’t tell me your advantages and only run down the opposition, why would I consider buying, ........(SNIP)

Gotta agree with that. I don't want to hear a dealer talk about the competition, I want to hear about his advantages.

And if the advantages are real, I expect to see those advantages reflected both in the price and in the warranty. Otherwise it's just a sales man talking about tractors - which I enjoy, but buying is different than talking.

When I do buy something big, I always take the proposed contract and warranty home and go over them with a red pencil. For example, I would strike out the "enforced arbitration" section and then both dealer and I would then sign the corrected copy.
That's simple to do, and takes care of disagreements before they happen.

rScotty

 

[Paystar]

I still have the old guide book that a parts guy at a New Holland dealer accidentally gave me years ago thinking it was a brochure. It's a whole book covering every model and it teaches you all the ways to deceive your customer and what bad things to say about the competition. I found it hilarious. What's even more hilarious is when you look up many of the models, the competitors they list with them usually blow them away as far as specs go, but it still teaches you how to make them look like they suck.

 

[Wobblin-Goblin]

The older I've gotten the more I value performance and features. Ten years ago, I'd have scoffed at the expense of an air-ride seat. My newest tractor (4707) has air and it was worth every single dollar extra. I also sprang for the upgraded FL series loader. Spent money on wheel weights. These are all things I'd never have given a single thought in the past. Comfort, ergonomics, performance, and being "enough machine for the job" are vitally important to me now. YMMV.

Having said that, I have a soft spot for vintage Ford and John Deere tractors (see sigline). They obviously don't have some of the features I value today, but they are so well built, I don't mind using them for simple tasks here and there. My "grail" tractor is a late '50s/early '60s Ford 600 or 800 series. Someday I'd like to add one to the stable. Those Fords are also pretty comfortable for their era.

 

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

When I do buy something big, I always take the proposed contract and warranty home and go over them with a red pencil. For example, I would strike out the "enforced arbitration" section and then both dealer and I would then sign the corrected copy.
That's simple to do, and takes care of disagreements before they happen.

Scotty, you know that is not going to over ride a manufacturer's warranty agreement.

 

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

I still have the old guide book that a parts guy at a New Holland dealer accidentally gave me years ago thinking it was a brochure. It's a whole book covering every model and it teaches you all the ways to deceive your customer and what bad things to say about the competition. I found it hilarious. What's even more hilarious is when you look up many of the models, the competitors they list with them usually blow them away as far as specs go, but it still teaches you how to make them look like they suck.

Pay, that would be a great upload to share with the community.

 

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

The older I've gotten the more I value performance and features. Ten years ago, I'd have scoffed at the expense of an air-ride seat. My newest tractor (4707) has air and it was worth every single dollar extra. I also sprang for the upgraded FL series loader. Spent money on wheel weights. These are all things I'd never have given a single thought in the past. Comfort, ergonomics, performance, and being "enough machine for the job" are vitally important to me now. YMMV.

Having said that, I have a soft spot for vintage Ford and John Deere tractors (see sigline). They obviously don't have some of the features I value today, but they are so well built, I don't mind using them for simple tasks here and there. My "grail" tractor is a late '50s/early '60s Ford 600 or 800 series. Someday I'd like to add one to the stable. Those Fords are also pretty comfortable for their era.

Agreed! Those Fords have proven to outlast time itself. That was one product the Japanese never beat us on in terms of reliability.

 

[Paystar]

Pay, that would be a great upload to share with the community.

Yes, but it would be a WHOLE LOT to scan, LOL

 

[Hay Dude]

Gotta agree with that. I don't want to hear a dealer talk about the competition, I want to hear about his advantages.

And if the advantages are real, I expect to see those advantages reflected both in the price and in the warranty. Otherwise it's just a sales man talking about tractors - which I enjoy, but buying is different than talking.

When I do buy something big, I always take the proposed contract and warranty home and go over them with a red pencil. For example, I would strike out the "enforced arbitration" section and then both dealer and I would then sign the corrected copy.
That's simple to do, and takes care of disagreements before they happen.

rScotty

YOU might sign it, but the minute you take a red pencil to any contract, it’s likely the seller will honor it.

 

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

Yes, but it would be a WHOLE LOT to scan, LOL

You better get to work then

 

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

YOU might sign it, but the minute you take a red pencil to any contract, it’s likely the seller will honor it.

You mean unlikely