Posthole Digger Posthole Digger Preference

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Chuck, do you have, or are going to get a Top 'n' Tilt set up? If you are, then you can get away with either a 6" or 9" auger for fence posts. Depends on your ground and what size posts that you are going to use. You use the tilt to adjust the auger so that it is straight up and down. (plum) The top hydraulic is removed to install the PHD. As far as the 18" vs 24", I'm not sure, that is why I got both.:) If you get the 24" bit, don't get a tree bit. (tapered) Get the bit that will cut a flat bottom. Mine is tapered and it is no fun :( hand digging the bottom out square at 4' deep.

Be sure that for that price that you are getting good bits, Pengo or equivilant. You will not be happy with the cheap bits. Depending on how hard your ground is, you might give thought to a down pressure kit also, since your dealer is giving you such a good price. I just paid $540 for my kit, have'nt had a chance to install it yet.:(

Any other questions, just ask.
 
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MtnViewRanch said:
Chuck, do you have, or are going to get a Top 'n' Tilt set up? If you are, then you can get away with either a 6" or 9" auger for fence posts. Depends on your ground and what size posts that you are going to use. You use the tilt to adjust the auger so that it is straight up and down. (plum) The top hydraulic is removed to install the PHD. As far as the 18" vs 24", I'm not sure, that is why I got both.:) If you get the 24" bit, don't get a tree bit. (tapered) Get the bit that will cut a flat bottom. Mine is tapered and it is no fun :( hand digging the bottom out square at 4' deep.

Be sure that for that price that you are getting good bits, Pengo or equivilant. You will not be happy with the cheap bits. Depending on how hard your ground is, you might give thought to a down pressure kit also, since your dealer is giving you such a good price. I just paid $540 for my kit, have'nt had a chance to install it yet.:(

Any other questions, just ask.

That quote was for the Landpride bits. Are those good quality or do I need to order separate Pengo bits? I don't have a Top 'n' Tilt. I had planned to get a hydraulic toplink but I don't guess that would matter for a PHD. I could hook up a hydraulic lift arm I suppose. I wish there was a straightforward kit to get a TNT. It seems to me like they have to be custom configured and built. I imagine a TNT would come in very handy with a box blade so I may have to look into it. If I don't have a TNT are you saying I would be better off getting a 12" bit over a 9" bit for a margin of error?
 
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MtnViewRanch said:
Chuck, do you have, or are going to get a Top 'n' Tilt set up?

Hi Brian!

New to the forum and to tractors... What is the "Top 'n' Tilt"? Did a quick search and came up empty. Description? Pics?

Thanks!!

Michael
 
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Yes, if you don't have a tilt cylinder, then it might be safer to get a larger bit. I highly recommend a Top"n"Tilt set up. I am going to the Tulare AG Show this week. I will look to see what is available for kits and let you know. When I bought my tractor, I had ordered T"n"T cylinders, what a joke, I had a fair amount of re-working to make them right.

I believe that the Land Pride bits are Pengo bits, double check before you buy. If I remember correctly, the Pengo name is on the teeth.
 
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KarolinaKubota said:
Hi Brian!

New to the forum and to tractors... What is the "Top 'n' Tilt"? Did a quick search and came up empty. Description? Pics?

Thanks!!

Michael

A top 'n' tilt is a hydraulic set-up so that the implement attached to the 3ph can be tilted side to side or angled forward or backward. It works by replacing the toplink with a hydraulic toplink and one of the lift arms for the side links with a hydraulically controlled one. These are then powered by the tractors rear hydraulic remotes. The hydraulic toplink tilts the implement forward and backward and helps in hooking up implements. The hydraulic side link tilts it side to side.

There are about a billion threads on the topic in the past. I'm not sure how would be the best way to do a search. Maybe somebody can put in a link and post some pictures.

Try this link to CCM Machinery.
 
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Thanks Chuck. That's pretty much what I thought it might be.

Can anyone recommend a supplier for one of these? How do I find out if it'll work on my L2800?
 
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KarolinaKubota said:
Thanks Chuck. That's pretty much what I thought it might be.

Can anyone recommend a supplier for one of these? How do I find out if it'll work on my L2800?

Chuck ansewered the question about Top"n"Tilt. I am going to the Tulare Ag Show this week. While I'm there I am going to get as much info as I can about all of this kind of stuff so that it can be passed on when needed. I hope that these guys have info along with all the tractors & implements.:cool:
 
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KarolinaKubota said:
Thanks Chuck. That's pretty much what I thought it might be.

Can anyone recommend a supplier for one of these? How do I find out if it'll work on my L2800?

Yeah, check out my link. I edited my post and put in that link as you were responding so you probably didn't see it initially. Sorry. But CCM seems to be the one that many have used for TNT. Either that or custom build them. Hope that helps.

Let's not hijack the thread though.
 
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GarthH said:
I was wondering about hydraulic post pounders - has anyone had any experience with them? One guy was telling me that they are much better as you do not need to pack around the post afterwards.

How deep do you need to put the posts for the pole building? Do you need to get the pole through the ground frost - we often have up to 8 feet of frost?

Do you fill the hole with a sonic tube and cement or just use a wooden pole?

Garth,

I was talking to the fence guy that was pounding in fence posts for a neighbor. The pounder was mounted on the front of an old IH tractor. The ground he was putting posts into was full of rocks. Walking and NOT stepping on a rock would have been unusual. He said that most of the time the pounder works. Every once in awhile he would have to move the post over when he hit a big rock.

You need to get below frost line. The poles need to be deep to handle the load of the structure. I have a pretty good book about building pole barns/structures that covers load/design issues.

I was out measuring my barn site yesterday evening. :D

For our barn I want to put in concrete piers and put the columns on top. Plenty of structures are build with putting the poles in the ground I just will feel better not having to worry about rot if I put the wood into a connector buried in concrete.

Later,
Dan
 
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dmccarty said:
I was out measuring my barn site yesterday evening. :D

For our barn I want to put in concrete piers and put the columns on top. Plenty of structures are build with putting the poles in the ground I just will feel better not having to worry about rot if I put the wood into a connector buried in concrete.

Have you ever seen a rotten telephone pole (utility pole)? I guess it could happen. But I don't think footers are necessary for pole barns. That's part of their appeal. Not necessary, couldn't hurt, may be overkill.
 
 

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