Pouring a concrete ramp at the waters edge.

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Fiberglass rebar... comes in the same steel rebar sizes.

First time I used it was in a slab under a MRI imaging machine... contractor said he used it for his private boat ramp at the lake.
 
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Fiberglass rebar... comes in the same steel rebar sizes. First time I used it was in a slab under a MRI imaging machine... contractor said he used it for his private boat ramp at the lake.

Fibreglass!? Have to check that out. Would sure be a lot easier to carry around.
 
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Sorry if these have been answered....

EDIT:

How steep is the slope? Got it.

How long will the ramp be? Got it.

Is the boat house floor SOG with a "t footing" perimeter?

I would OVER excavate for sure, lay in a very thick base course consisting of a single layer of 2-4" rip rap, then 4-5" (clean crushed rock 1 1/4") and compact the whole area in 2-3" lifts. I would even go as far as laying a some type of soil stabilization system (geo-fabric) under the base course to help stop soil migration, settling, etc. It should be a non-woven type with a strong tear strength.

This, in my opinion, is even more critical if the boat house is not SOG and is just post and beam with a gravel floor.

Meaning, you wont be able to dowel into the existing slab to tie in the new boat ramp.

Also, at the end of the ramp I would run a continuous bar, bent at 90 degrees at each end, that will be tied into the perimeter reinforcing bars of the slab. Give yourself 3' of lap to splice.
 
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A company around here sells used mining conveyor belts as driveway or feed silo floor repair. Its a 8 to 10 foot wide roll with lots of steel wire in it, their 16 ton forklift cant lift it, only push it off the lowboy and roll it out to cut it to length. If you had a few yards of that 1 inch thick reinforced conveyor belt you could simply roll it up, level the subsoil and roll it back if it ever gets washed under.
 
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A stiff batch I n the mixer is crucial. You are asking gravity to suspend its behavior until the concrete starts to set. A hot mix will help some. Have plenty of guys around who know what they're doing. Pour from the upper end down. Consider chopped fiberglass in the concrete - adds a little strength. Otherwise the suggestions you're getting are good. Good luck, and be all ready before you call for concrete. Last minute stuff is stressful! Jim
 
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A stiff batch I n the mixer is crucial. You are asking gravity to suspend its behavior until the concrete starts to set. A hot mix will help some. Have plenty of guys around who know what they're doing. Pour from the upper end down. Consider chopped fiberglass in the concrete - adds a little strength. Otherwise the suggestions you're getting are good. Good luck, and be all ready before you call for concrete. Last minute stuff is stressful! Jim

Yup “Concrete’s here!” gets everybody fired up like a disturbed ant’s nest!

So, after a good long time doing other things, I finally got the site pretty much prepared, and I am ordering the gravel next week. (3/4” clear)

Will go with rebar and a 6” slab. Unfortunately, after a lovely fall, now the temperatures are starting to dip below freezing on a few nights. Bummer, as I cannot do anything until the water is at its absolute lowest, which it will be in maybe a week or so. But, if the weather doesn’t cooperate… Well, there is always next year.
 
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Sorry if these have been answered....

EDIT:

How steep is the slope? Got it.

How long will the ramp be? Got it.

Is the boat house floor SOG with a "t footing" perimeter?

I would OVER excavate for sure, lay in a very thick base course consisting of a single layer of 2-4" rip rap, then 4-5" (clean crushed rock 1 1/4") and compact the whole area in 2-3" lifts. I would even go as far as laying a some type of soil stabilization system (geo-fabric) under the base course to help stop soil migration, settling, etc. It should be a non-woven type with a strong tear strength.

This, in my opinion, is even more critical if the boat house is not SOG and is just post and beam with a gravel floor.

Meaning, you wont be able to dowel into the existing slab to tie in the new boat ramp.

Also, at the end of the ramp I would run a continuous bar, bent at 90 degrees at each end, that will be tied into the perimeter reinforcing bars of the slab. Give yourself 3' of lap to splice.

Boat house “floor” is water. The ramp will be outside of the boathouse.

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   / Pouring a concrete ramp at the waters edge. #29  
The way I've seen it done, is they pour the slab, then push it into the water as far as the can after it cures, then they pour another slab next to that one. This was with a full sized 4x4 backhoe. I don't know what it weighed or how much power it takes to push a slab down hill into the water, but it sure looked pretty easy when I saw it being done.


This is the way I have seen KDFW do it, except it took about 4 good size dozers to push theirs in.

Could use a stone slinger to create the base underwater then push a slab onto it. Depends on how big ya wanna go and how much ya wanna spend.
 

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