Pouring Hydro oil from pail.

[Trials]

I sit the bucket on the seat and siphon the oil in through the dipstick hole with a length of 3/8" clear plastic tubing :| it's pretty slow so I leave it siphoning overnight, by the next morning it's all in there.

 

[CCWKen]

Those pumps are worthless unless you have a whole day to spend pumping it. The HF model pumps 2 ounces per stroke. That's 410 strokes per 5-gallon pail. My last change took almost THREE pails. That works out to 1,230 strokes. Just the thought makes my elbow ache. I prefer to just muscle them up like I do with the 5-gallon gas or diesel cans.

 

[Kiotidriver]

Those pumps are worthless unless you have a whole day to spend pumping it.

I bought a GPI Pail pump at TCS for $35.46 (tax included). I used it to refill my Kioti CK30 HST with ~ 8 gallons of Super UDT-2. I took me ~ 10 minutes of actual pumping. This pump transfers fluid in both stroke directions, however it delivers more fluid during the up stroke. Pumping was effortless. The only complaint I have is with the provided plastic clamp used to secure the pump to the pail's spout. I could not tighten it. I had to drive to the nearest True Value store and buy a metal worm band hose clamp. Of couse I could have lugged the pail over my shoulder and poured directly in the funnel. But doing so I could have risked spilling some fluid on the tractor and my garage floor. Instead I moved a 55-Gal empty drum against the back of the tractor, placed the 5-Gal pail fitted with the pump on the top of the drum.

 

[CCWKen]

Yeah, that one is a little better at one cup per pump.

 

[farmer2009]

I pour the 5 gallon pail into one of these https://www.fastenal.com/products/details/0489563. Holds 1 gallon.

No I didn't pay that for it. I found mine at NAPA much cheaper.

 

[4570Man]

As long as the funnel doesn't have a filter screen it works pretty good. It works better if you have a helper to hold the funnel. The filter screens don't work good on oil and take forever to pour anything. The oil fill port is pretty big. If you can get a funnel with about a 3/4 inch opening it goes pretty fast. Long before you find a pump and then slowly pump the oil and finally clean up up the pump I will be finished and back to work.

 

[Buggs67]

I needed six gallons, so I bought a 5gal and a two gal. Used the 2 gal 1st, then refilled it from 5gal resting on a milk crate so I didn't have to hold it up and poured that it. Holding 35 lbs steady while pouring into a funnel looked like a recipe for an oil spill.

 

[IslandTractor]

As a society we used to haul 100 lb sacks of feed, 80 lb sacks of fertilizer, Cement and mortar mix and think nothing of it. I wouldn't think anything of slinging a sack of feed on my shoulder, or loading 2 tons of bagged fertilizer on the pickup every other day for three weeks, and unload it into the corn planter. Now we look for crutches to help with 35 lb pails.

Yes, boys & girls, I am including myself in this commentary, although I still can pour oil from a 5 gallon pail (for now).

Throwing a 80lb sack on your shoulder puts all the weight on your skeleton. Duck soup. Holding a 35lb weight out two feet from your body requires a lot more muscle energy. Try holding a one pound can of soup at arms length and see how long you can keep it level with your eye with your arm straight.

 

[RickB]

Throwing a 80lb sack on your shoulder puts all the weight on your skeleton. Duck soup. Holding a 35lb weight out two feet from your body requires a lot more muscle energy. Try holding a one pound can of soup at arms length and see how long you can keep it level with your eye with your arm straight.

Thanks for the physics lesson, but I've been handling this stuff all my life. If you can't figure out how to pour a 5 gallon pail from closer to your body than 2 feet, buy a pump.

 

[IslandTractor]

Thanks for the physics lesson, but I've been handling this stuff all my life. If you can't figure out how to pour a 5 gallon pail from closer to your body than 2 feet, buy a pump.

How do you get closer than 2 ft to a HST oil spout that is buried in front of the 3PT arms and almost on top of the rear axle? Many tractors are set up like mine. My solution has been to decant the oil into a two gallon container but a 5 gallon pail pumping efficient, would be an alternative.

 

[k0ua]

Well, I held the 5 gallon pail up and poured it into a funnel.. Not the most pleasant of activities. I am 61. There may come a time when I won't be able to hold it up any more. I dunno, maybe I will have to come up with an easier way at some point.

 

[SPYDERLK]

Thanks for the physics lesson, but I've been handling this stuff all my life. If you can't figure out how to pour a 5 gallon pail from closer to your body than 2 feet, buy a pump.

How do you get closer than 2 ft to a HST oil spout that is buried in front of the 3PT arms and almost on top of the rear axle? Many tractors are set up like mine. My solution has been to decant the oil into a two gallon container but a 5 gallon pail pumping efficient, would be an alternative.

Well, I held the 5 gallon pail up and poured it into a funnel.. Not the most pleasant of activities. I am 61. There may come a time when I won't be able to hold it up any more. I dunno, maybe I will have to come up with an easier way at some point.

I find decanting into 1 gal or even 1 qt containers solves the problem 95%.
larry

 

[Gary Fowler]

Guess maybe I知 missing something. Is there some reason a plain old funnel won稚 work? It痴 all I致e ever used and it works fine.

Now withstanding the weight of 5 gallons of oil, some tractors like my formerly owned Yanmar 4220D had no room to place a 5 gallon pail over a funnel when trying to pour. Also the glug, glug of oil from a pail makes for lots of spills. I bought a drum hand pump (all metal) so I could pump the oil in. It had a regular faucet connection so I used a short section of water hose on to the pump spout that I placed directly into the tractor fill hole. Absolutely no spilling but you do have to carefully drain the pump and hose when finished. I store it in a large plastic storage bin with hinged lid that seals out the dust so it is ready for use when I need it.

 

[5030]

Guess maybe I知 missing something. Is there some reason a plain old funnel won稚 work? It痴 all I致e ever used and it works fine.

People today make the simple tasks complex it seems..... My tractors take 3 5 gallon buckets to change... A flexible spout funnel and some common sense is all thats required...

Hint... To get the last of the fluid from the pail, take a whizzy wheel and cut the retainers on the lid, pop it off and drain the remainder out. Hydraulic fluid buckets make dandy utility buckets, just wash out with warm water and Purple Power, Hydraulic fluid is very easy to remove from a pail for reusing the pail....

 

[Gary Fowler]

People today make the simple tasks complex it seems..... My tractors take 3 5 gallon buckets to change... A flexible spout funnel and some common sense is all thats required...

Hint... To get the last of the fluid from the pail, take a whizzy wheel and cut the retainers on the lid, pop it off and drain the remainder out. Hydraulic fluid buckets make dandy utility buckets, just wash out with warm water and Purple Power, Hydraulic fluid is very easy to remove from a pail for reusing the pail....

It all depends on the access to the fill hole. Each tractor is different and some are downright impossible to pour directly from a pail and some even make holding the funnel upright a challenge. Nothing like having a tilted funnel full of oil move around spilling half the contents. All this is reason enough to buy a decent pump to handle the job even if you are young Arnold Swartzenegger.

 

[SPYDERLK]

Now withstanding the weight of 5 gallons of oil, some tractors like my formerly owned Yanmar 4220D had no room to place a 5 gallon pail over a funnel when trying to pour. Also the glug, glug of oil from a pail makes for lots of spills. I bought a drum hand pump (all metal) so I could pump the oil in. It had a regular faucet connection so I used a short section of water hose on to the pump spout that I placed directly into the tractor fill hole. Absolutely no spilling but you do have to carefully drain the pump and hose when finished. I store it in a large plastic storage bin with hinged lid that seals out the dust so it is ready for use when I need it.

People today make the simple tasks complex it seems..... My tractors take 3 5 gallon buckets to change... A flexible spout funnel and some common sense is all thats required...

Hint... To get the last of the fluid from the pail, take a whizzy wheel and cut the retainers on the lid, pop it off and drain the remainder out. Hydraulic fluid buckets make dandy utility buckets, just wash out with warm water and Purple Power, Hydraulic fluid is very easy to remove from a pail for reusing the pail....

It all depends on the access to the fill hole. Each tractor is different and some are downright impossible to pour directly from a pail and some even make holding the funnel upright a challenge. Nothing like having a tilted funnel full of oil move around spilling half the contents. All this is reason enough to buy a decent pump to handle the job even if you are young Arnold Swartzenegger.

I find decanting into 1 gal or even 1 qt containers solves the problem 95%.
larry

... Maybe more. And no extraneous tools needed. ... Usually not even a funnel.

 

[IslandTractor]

As with many tasks involving tools and machinery, if you have to strain your muscles to get the job done it generally means you haven't properly exercised the muscle between your ears. It doesn't make sense to struggle with a five gallon pail of expensive oil imitating macho man or even to try to aim at a poorly fitting wobbly funnel. Dispensing the oil into smaller containers first isn't difficult and takes very little extra time. Flex those brain muscles guys.

 

[ritcheyvs]

Who would have thought that such a simple task would generate so much controversy?

Without even checking the geometry, I bought a cheapie pail pump from Harbor Freight. At 2 oz per stroke you would think it would take forever but it went pretty fast. The only problem was the clear hose leaked where it attached (at both ends) but a couple hose clamps fixed that. The only other problem will be remembering where I put it when I next need it. Senior moments come often now.

 

[SPYDERLK]

I pour the 5 gallon pail into one of these https://www.fastenal.com/products/details/0489563. Holds 1 gallon.

No I didn't pay that for it. I found mine at NAPA much cheaper.

Good thing. That cost would pay for a quart spilled in every fluid change for the life of the tractor. ... I saved several of the Delvac gallon containers with the pull out spout and built in pour restricter. No glug spill problem. No cleanup or storage issue. ... Free.

 

[farmer2009]

Good thing. That cost would pay for a quart spilled in every fluid change for the life of the tractor. ... I saved several of the Delvac gallon containers with the pull out spout and built in pour restricter. No glug spill problem. No cleanup or storage issue. ... Free.

While high $32 isn't that expensive. Seems like I paid between $15-20 for mine. The price you are referring to is for 6. Lifetime supply for you and family. .