power shuttle ?

   / power shuttle ? #11  
"When u put it in gear i.e.. tractor running shuttle lever forward or reverse does the tractor start moving or u have to step on foot throttle to move ?"
I have a 75hp Kioti power shuttle, and have regularly used larger JD and NH tractors with power shuttle. All have a regular foot clutch as well as the shuttle lever. You can start them all in neutral, foot clutch in, and then select forward or reverse on the shuttle, choose a gear, and then use the foot clutch to start like any other tractor. Or, you can start the same way, let the foot clutch out in neutral, choose a gear, then use the shuttle lever to start moving - it does the work of letting the clutch out.
For close work (I do a lot of loader work, fork work, and stack round bales, all of which are up close and personal to shed walls, other vehicles, etc. After enough experience, I find that I use the shuttle shift lever for the larger movements, then when I get close to placing a bale or pallet, it's one hand on the wheel, left foot on the clutch pedal, right foot on the brake, and right hand on the FEL control joystick - no free hand for the shuttle lever, and I can feather the foot clutch to control movement, just flicking the shuttle lever back when it is time to reverse out.
Boggan mentions slamming things backwards and forwards, and that might be fine on a commercial loader - I don't have the experience to comment - but I have been warned by a number of people (including long time salesmen of this kind of agricultural tractor, and some very experienced mechanics who fix this kind of machine) and they all say that you should shuttle to neutral, let the tractor stop or almost stop, then shuttle to the opposite direction.
Personally, I have found that the power shuttle (where you don't NEED to use the foot clutch) is optimal for the kind of work I do, where the tractor has to have the fine control for the inside-the-shed jobs, as well as the ability to pull a plough all day when needed.
Note that there are two type of shuttle transmissions - the power type described above, and the just-a-shuttle type, which still needs you to put the clutch in for every change of direction.
I have been impressed by my Kioti, and wouldn't hesitate to recommend them as an option - they have HST, manual shuttles and power shuttles in many sizes. Worth thinking about. Good luck finding the right machine for you.
 
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Wow wen't to work and got lots of replys. Thank u all :D:thumbsup: Try to explain my perdicument better.I am looking a cut with the best loader capacity. Something like a koiti nx 65 .I use forks on my tractor most of the time. I have a tc29d with a treddle peddle and I abousoulty hate I.I have had both knees replaced , real bad foot problems and bad back.{go by the name of lucky].:laughing:I have a simplicity legacy with twin pedals and it works better 4 me.My property is 5 acres and has about 50 ft of rolling grade change.Pretty steep in some places. Also my kids 14 and 20 need to be able to run the tractor .They have been onequiptment all their life but u know kids when u put clutch brake shuttle in mix. that's y I was thinking of the lull in work trans it is pretty easy to operate and if there was a cut powershift like it. I don't like to buy anything Ican't fix my self.2008 seems to be the cut off for non pollution not overly electronic cut's.My tractor sleeps outside under a tarp so the less wires the less the mice have to eat.:mad: A DX 65 would be nice but it's only shuttle. When looking 4 95 to 2008 Koiti Massey and Mihandra aare far and few in between. Does that leave me with a choice between a 4720 or a 110 tlb .Has anyone gone from a tc 45d to a jd 4720 or 110 tlb and is the loader that much stronger to justify the 5 to 10 thousand dollar price jump?Thank's again:drink:
 
   / power shuttle ? #13  
I'm not sure why it's so unappealing to feather a clutch pedal. Several million tractors have them.

Older hip joints or knees are a couple I can think of.
 
   / power shuttle ? #14  
Older hip joints or knees are a couple I can think of.

From reading this thread, hydro treadle pedals are worse. Many 'clutch' pedals on power shuttle transmissions control a button switch and potentiometer, and have a spring for artificial resistance. These typically require less effort than a dry clutch pressure plate.

You guys can pontificate all you want, operating tractors and machinery requires physical effort. If a person can't operate pedals they can't use brakes and probably shouldn't drive tractors that are unmodified for use by folks with physical challenges.
 
   / power shuttle ? #15  
From reading this thread, hydro treadle pedals are worse. Many 'clutch' pedals on power shuttle transmissions control a button switch and potentiometer, and have a spring for artificial resistance. These typically require less effort than a dry clutch pressure plate.

You guys can pontificate all you want, operating tractors and machinery requires physical effort. If a person can't operate pedals they can't use brakes and probably shouldn't drive tractors that are unmodified for use by folks with physical challenges.

I agree that treadle pedals are not a great method of controlling a tractor. I prefer side by side pedals and so does my wife who has the above disabilities and gets along fine with side by side hydro pedals.

Why the elitist attitude?
 
   / power shuttle ? #16  
Older hip joints or knees are a couple I can think of.
I have both getting scheduled for replacement this summer and fall. I don't have any issues at all clutching my Workmaster shuttle shift with the bad left knee. The right hip gives me a fit getting on and off the tractor. Operation of the tractor for me is a non issue at this point. After surgery I hope to be able to get on and off the tractor pain free.
 
   / power shuttle ? #17  
I have both getting scheduled for replacement this summer and fall. I don't have any issues at all clutching my Workmaster shuttle shift with the bad left knee. The right hip gives me a fit getting on and off the tractor. Operation of the tractor for me is a non issue at this point. After surgery I hope to be able to get on and off the tractor pain free.

The side by side pedals on my little jd cause fatigue also. When I'm on it for any period of time and can I use the cruise control.

I don't think I would like the treadle.
 
   / power shuttle ? #19  
I am currently demo'ing a Mahindra 6065 (unreleased demo tractor) with a PST transmission. You can shift from neutral to forward/reverse using the PST lever but it will jerk the tractor. It is best (and advised) to step on the clutch when changing gears and feather the clutch out to get a smooth takeoff.
 
   / power shuttle ? #20  
...forgot to add

If you are doing a lot of loader/fork work I would definitely go with a hydrostatic transmission (HST)
 

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