Pre-Welding for a novice

   / Pre-Welding for a novice #51  
i can stick weld with dcep or dcen, although as you say, dcep is the "normal" way its done.

if you were not supposed to weld on dirty rusty metal why would they make 6010? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Pre-Welding for a novice #52  
#pokes his head out of the bunker, looks around, jumps out and does a silent dance on the warground#
Thingys gone??
Safety, ahhhh /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Dont you miss the commas /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

King, welcome to the rust welders assn. (ooh, that and TBN) nice to have you aboard /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Pre-Welding for a novice #53  
<font color="blue"> "...why would they make 6010?" </font>

They make the 6010s to weed out the new welding students. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Pre-Welding for a novice #54  
haha, i hate to admit it, but the other day I was going to weld something, and it was so **** rusty i could not even get a ground on it. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I had to bust the grinder out and make 2 shiny spots, on for the ground clamp and the other to start the arc, after that it was smooth sailing. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Pre-Welding for a novice #55  
UH,HUH,6010,,thousands of miles of gas pipe line are welded with 6010,,no rust allowed,,thats why they are still in operation,,,and,,man,don't be so tickeled about me being gone,thingy
 
   / Pre-Welding for a novice #56  
thingy said:
UH,HUH,6010,,thousands of miles of gas pipe line are welded with 6010,,no rust allowed,,thats why they are still in operation,,,and,,man,don't be so tickeled about me being gone,thingy

I'm new here and don't even know you. But since you brought back a thread that is 17 months old so I could read it and get to know you, I'm tickled you were gone and I wasn't even here!!! :D
 
   / Pre-Welding for a novice #57  
It's interesting how egos get in the way of some good information.

If you look past the little personality squabbles then I have to say that Thingy has some really good sound advice.

Mith and Soundguy are right about the fact that you can be a backyard welder and have fun sticking rusty metal together but you should take all the advice that Thingy provides and try to understand it.

It's probably a good idea to know how to do something the right way so when you decide to cut corners you have a good idea of what the corners are that you are cutting.

If you aren't going to read a book on welding or take a course then I would suggest renting (SmartFlix.com) or buying one of the Wall Mountain Welding DVD's from NorthernTool.com. They are great learning tools
 
   / Pre-Welding for a novice #58  
PBinWA said:
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If you aren't going to read a book on welding or take a course then I would suggest renting (SmartFlix.com) or buying one of the Wall Mountain Welding DVD's from NorthernTool.com. They are great learning tools

The videos are also available direct from Wall Mountain and are great for the novice "learn it yourself'er". Now if I could just get mine to work like they do in the videos.
 
   / Pre-Welding for a novice #59  
Thingy is just jobbing you. Betcha he lays welding rod in the v and then goes over it with a bead to cover all the junk underneath cause he gets paid by the pound of rod used!:D :D
 
   / Pre-Welding for a novice #60  
I can stick in my 2 cents worth here.

I have tried stick welding. definetly takes a lot of practice to learn I did not have the time to practice so I dont really know how to stick weld.

We have a tig welder where I work. I played with it some. You can weld stainless and aluminum with it so is nice for those. It is also very very slow and probably one of the hardest welders to use. and we have the miller that starts your arc for you. It is still hard to use.

Oxy- Acetyline kind of slow and not that easy

Mig- Gods gift to novie welders. turn it on close your hood put the trigger near the metal to be welded pull the trigger and start welding. I have welded
several items with a mig. I made tractor ramps for my trailer that held the 6000 pounds of my tractor. You can make welds that will hold pretty well from the beginning with it and as you do the welding you need done hopefully get from the point that they are not pretty but will hold to the point where they will hold and actually dont look to bad.

downside of the mig is that it is pretty expensive compated to a stick welder or oxy-acetyline

I hope this helps
 

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