Price of a cord of firewood

[dmccarty]

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My point about the OJ is that the measure is clearly marked on the container, by law. You can read it, not guess about it. Which would you prefer, OJ sold by the jug, or OJ sold by a known number of ounces? The deceptiveness of the jug design, or lack of due diligence on the consumer's part are other topics.

And my point, :laughing::laughing::laughing: is that since many people do not look at the amount of OJ in the jug it is just like the buying a load of cord wood. In both cases, the buyer agrees to the price of the product set by the seller. In the OJ case, the buyer can look at the jug and see how much it holds but many do not do this, and in fact, the jug is no longer holding the amount of OJ that the buyer expects. In the firewood case, as long as the seller does not say the load of wood is a cord, there is no issue. The buyer agrees to buy the load at the price set by the seller. Which is just what many people are doing with a jug of OJ, container of ice cream, package of bacon, etc.

It really is irrelevant how many ounces are in the container of OJ. If I want OJ, I have to pay the price. The only time the number ounces is important is when comparing to a different brand of OJ or I get less than what the jug says I should be getting. In our case, we like a specific brand and as long as their price is "reasonable" it gets bought irregardless of the number of ounces. We see the product, we want the product and we agree to buy the product at the price set by the seller.

There is no need for a law that requires firewood to be sold by the cord. Danged few people buy by the cord around my area in spite of the law. When I see people selling, it is by the load. The seller is not saying it is a cord of wood, no harm no foul. Now, *** I *** would buy by the stacked cord but I think most people in my area that are buying wood are doing so for emergency use or to have a fire to view. They really don't seem to care that much about price.

Later,
Dan

 

[daugen]

They really don't seem to care that much about price.

ok, but I'm assuming they aren't clueless and don't want to be gouged/abused.
Now if gouging and abusing just doesn't happen around there, well I can sure see
your point.

it's a side point, but how nice the wood is sure is a point of satisfaction. And value.

 

[dave1949]

There is no need for a law that requires firewood to be sold by the cord. Danged few people buy by the cord around my area in spite of the law. When I see people selling, it is by the load. The seller is not saying it is a cord of wood, no harm no foul. Now, *** I *** would buy by the stacked cord but I think most people in my area that are buying wood are doing so for emergency use or to have a fire to view. They really don't seem to care that much about price.

I can see you people don't take your firewood seriously. :laughing: Many rural folks here heat with wood, or mostly wood. The winters here are longer and colder, the jobs are fewer. The price and quality matters.

By the cord measure was meant to distinguish from by the whole cord. It would be unusual, but you can certainly buy fractions of a cord here, but they are sold as that; 1/2 cord for example. The price will be higher than buying a larger amount. Most dealers give the best price on a two cord minimum order.

I think I'll run down to the store and read the OJ container labels, just because I can. :laughing: Good luck with your wood pile labels.

 

[TomSeller]

Those laws are probably to protect grandma who orders a cord of wood stacked in her shed over the phone, pays cash for it at the door and gets a wheelbarrow full dumped behind her car as the creeps speed away. This stuff would happen to my MIL before we got her out of her house.

 

[daugen]

what I've found interesting so far is how inexpensive firewood is in some places. Perhaps if someone is buying logs
by the truckload and runs them through a fancy wood processor, well maybe I can see selling in the mid 100's but with the cost of everything, fuel, insurance, saws, etc, etc, I think anyone buying good firewood for under two hundred a cord is getting a real bargain.

We've been focused on quantity, not quality. Anyone want to suggest a "spec" for firewood involving wood type, dryness, mud...? Without quality, remember the bigger piece of cake? Not always the best slice...

 

[RoyJackson]

We've been focused on quantity, not quality. Anyone want to suggest a "spec" for firewood involving wood type, dryness, mud...? Without quality, remember the bigger piece of cake? Not always the best slice...

The attached file is something I found online.
The main thing is the wood should be seasoned for at least 6 months and the moisture content should be >20%.
Since my wood is outside (top is covered with a tarp), I keep a couple days supply in the garage. If the splits are wet or damp, I keep 'em stacked in the bed of the Gator for a day or so before stacking. The Gator is kept in the garage, BTW.

View attachment Firewood Ratings.pdf

 

[daugen]

excellent info Roy, thanks. So pick from the "excellent" ratings.
We had an orchard on the farm growing up and therefore we had some interesting wood to burn at times.
My favorites were apple, which took forever to burn, and dogwood. Most of our dogwoods died in some blight, and were replanted, but boy that wood was nice.

Now ma'am, we have a special on willow wood today. Look how nice it looks. For you, twenty dollars off.
And we'll throw in some pitch pine too.
I hope your local fire company is close by...

 

[daugen]

I am beginning to work on a project in xxxxxx to convert wood chips into pellets to be burned in xxxxx homes and factories. What data exists out there about wood pellets?

I sent the chart to an attorney friend and immediately got this reply...sorry for the x's but think Europe.
I know I can Google this and so can he, and I'm sure he has, but wonder if any of our Northern members are wood pellet
gurus. Any charts like this exist for wood pellets?
I'd love to help this friend.
Just another kind of wood...though more like a hotdog filling than a fine piece of steak...

 

[RoyJackson]

I am beginning to work on a project in xxxxxx to convert wood chips into pellets to be burned in xxxxx homes and factories. What data exists out there about wood pellets?

I sent the chart to an attorney friend and immediately got this reply...sorry for the x's but think Europe.
I know I can Google this and so can he, and I'm sure he has, but wonder if any of our Northern members are wood pellet
gurus. Any charts like this exist for wood pellets?
I'd love to help this friend.

I found that chart on a Goggle search for fire wood ratings. Try the same search for pellets.
I'm not sure how big a pellet stove market would be in Europe. Jotul, a Norwegian stove manufacturer, doesn't make a pellet stove and they're pretty big in the wood burning market.
I've also read (but no personal experience) that the quality of pellets varies quite a bit (this is in the US, BTW). We considered selling our VC stove and getting a pellet stove (probably a Harman). Pellet stoves are a lot cleaner (meaning you don't have wood splinters and pieces of bark all over the place) and less creosote build up. But they have their problems too.

 

[Scooby074]

I found that chart on a Goggle search for fire wood ratings. Try the same search for pellets.
I'm not sure how big a pellet stove market would be in Europe. Jotul, a Norwegian stove manufacturer, doesn't make a pellet stove and they're pretty big in the wood burning market.
I've also read (but no personal experience) that the quality of pellets varies quite a bit (this is in the US, BTW). We considered selling our VC stove and getting a pellet stove (probably a Harman). Pellet stoves are a lot cleaner (meaning you don't have wood splinters and pieces of bark all over the place) and less creosote build up. But they have their problems too.

Its not so much pellet stoves in Europe, but pellet BOILERS. Whole house units.They get bulk truck delivery of pellets, like we get oil.

We ship out tens of thousands of tons by boat to Europe.