Problems with my new toy?

[StoneSprings]

Hi Guys, I have been following your discussions for over a year now and on Firday I got my new TC35DA HST with a QA 16LA loader, and Ind. Tires. A little back ground on the purchase; I got a great deal on a 2005 that had been on the lot for a year and took it.

I have only used it for about an hour on Saturday and just cleared some brush along a fence line. It stalled about 3 times while I was using it and I thought it was just the way I was driving it. Today I was just driving it across the field in high and when I depressed the pedal to increase the speed the tractor started lugging. When I took my foot off the pedal the engine reved right back up; maybe even a little too much.

The wierd thing is the farther I push the pedal down the worse it gets even if I increase the RPMs. Now I do not know that much about tractors, but I am pretty sure something is wrong, but I do not have any idea what. Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Dave

 

[GATC35]

You have a rare diease called "newhydrodriveroasis" /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

What you are describing is normal for a hydro transmission. You are getting into the range for the tranmsissions relief valve to open.

Down shift to a lower range and drive on. I had a hard time with this at first going from a Ford/New Holland 1920 with a 12 X 4 manual transmission to my TC-35D hydro.

On Edit: Almost forgot......Welcome!!! Lots of good folks here to help you out. Some of the good Class III Boomer guys are "Jinman", "Pineridge" and "HaveBlue".

 

[StoneSprings]

/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif I was afraid it was something serious like that. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Its funny all the tractors I have ever worked with were ones with gears this is the first that is a Hydro.

Thanks for your help, I will keep practicing.

Dave

 

[GATC35]

It takes a little time to get accustomed to the hydro. When I'm just moving firewood, garbage cans, or just moving around the yard I keep the manual lever in II and keep the electronic selector in "turtle" mode. Any time I'm really doing any work with FEL, bushhogging etc. I keep the manual lever in I, and will toggle between "turtle" and "rabbit". Very rare that I ever keep manual lever in II and stay in "rabbit" mode.

"Turtles" and "Rabbits"....sounds like a kids story..... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

BUT....I'm a big kid with a big blue toy !!!!

 

[DieselMonk]

Congrats on your new toy!

 

[jinman]

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Dave, congratulations on your purchase, especially since you also got a good deal on your TC35DA. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

I also believe you are experiencing newbie problems with your hydro, but I don't want to completely jump on that bandwagon. You should check your hydraulic fluid (above the 3PH toplink). As long as your tractor sat on the dealer's lot, it could have collected some moisture in the fluid. If it is not clear (cloudy or yellowish-white) then you should be concerned. Otherwise, back to the hydro operation...

With a gear tractor you have many more gears and change them often. Within each gear range, you vary the engine RPM to match the speed you want unless you are doing something that requires strict PTO rpm where you have to keep the engine at a constant speed.

With a hydro, you keep the engine at a constant speed and vary the hydro pedal to your needs, more pedal for speed and less pedal for power. The power is just the reverse of what your mind tells you is correct.

Here's what I would suggest. Throttle up to 2000 rpm and then try your High Range-Rabbit speed on level ground. Don't put your pedal down quickly. Start off by depressing it only a couple of inches. Keep working until you can start of smoothly and slowly depress the pedal on down to full depression. When you get it running at full speed at 2000 rpm, reach up and push the throttle up to 2500 rpm and you should be moving along at a very good clip. I consider hi-rabbit to be a road gear. When I'm crossing a field I almost always gear down to hi-turtle. I can mow in hi-turtle if I'm on a flat field, but I have to shift to lo-rabbit to go up hills or inclines.

Just keep practicing and learn to feather that hydro pedal. Keep your engine rpm high as your are learning how the pedal works. Later on, you can throttle back to 1600 rpm for some jobs, but for now I'd keep the engine revved pretty high. I often work for hours at 2500 rpm when doing dirt work. It always seems like I'm revving the engine too high when I first run it up there, but soon I get used to the sound. Maybe that's why I'm a little deaf. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[PineRidge]

Really can't add any advice to the info that Jim has already supplied. He's pretty much covered it in a nutshell.

Will add that the first time that I jumped on our Class III Boomer, shifted it into high range and tried to head up the hill the tractor went into relief and I thought that the hydro was a big mistake. Then started reading the operators manual and realized how to use the hydro correctly. Now you couldn't get the hydro away form me, it's a real pleasure to work with it.

Practice, practice, practice.

 

[farmacist]

Just want to restate what Jinman said in a little different way. When you start to bog down in any gear let UP on the hydro pedal and you will have more power, push down and you will have more speed and less power. Just the opposite of a "gas pedal". Choose the gear you want to work in and feather your power/speed with the foot hydro pedal. Have fun , Frank

 

[StoneSprings]

Thanks Jim for taking the time to put this much detail down, I will give it a try tomorrow!

 

[Nomoregears]

I just purchased a very clean 2001 TC29DA with 1000 hours. It's my first "hydro" tractor. . I began checking fluids,greasing everything and getting to know my new toy as soon as it got home. I was keeping the RPM around 2000 for working with my bucket in low gear. Should I run the RPM's up more?
I must say I'm impressed with this little beast. The super steer is fantastic. It has turf tires on it now. If I have a problem, I'll switch over to R4's. It came with a 60" (914A) mower deck, FEL, post hole digger, and wheel weights. The parking brake light stays on even after it is disengaged. Adjustment? The bucket and 3pt hitch stay up while the machine is off (just to test). What type of oil is recommended for the engine? Hydraulic oil? Grease? Appreciate any help you guys can give.