PT-425 PROS & cons??

KentT · Jun 1, 2006

Re: PT-425 PROS & cons??

( Well, I guess I'm on the fence for a while on this one. I also have to consider the smaller wheel motors of the 180.

I'm sure the 425 also has a beefier wheel motor, shaft, and bearings. Do the 422 and 180 have the same wheel motors?

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I'm not sure, but I think the 422s have the same White wheel motors that were used on the older 425s like mine and MossRoad's... the newer 425s have different, higher-torque wheel motors. I think FOURTEEN's 425 is one with the newer wheel motors, yet he still has the Kohler engine, unless I'm mistaken...

I don't know what the PT-180 uses.... /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Barryh · Jun 1, 2006

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Well I do think there is a lot of logic in what J.J. says. Mechanically speaking, more stress does add up to shorter wheel life, along with any bearing or seals. The question is how much of a shorter life are you willing to settle for? 800 hours instead of 1000 who really knows?

Kent for your needs, and others that absolutely have to have the extra stability, I can see the trade off in reversing the wheels. Looking at some of the hills you have to transverse, I would defiantly go with reversed wheels.

For just average use around my house the wider stance would be great, but not as necessary. As far as the look, I really could care less. I didn't buy the PT for it looks. So I guess it just boils down to safety versus possible added cost later on. I suspect you are right about the 180 and 422 being the same wheel motors. I'm sure someone on here knows for sure.

Barryh · Jun 1, 2006

Re: PT-425 PROS & cons??

Well I do think there is a lot of logic in what J.J. says. Mechanically speaking, more stress does add up to shorter wheel life, along with any bearing or seals. The question is how much of a shorter life are you willing to settle for? 800 hours instead of 1000 who really knows?

Kent for your needs, and others that absolutely have to have the extra stability, I can see the trade off in reversing the wheels. Looking at some of the hills you have to transverse, I would defiantly go with reversed wheels.

For just average use around my house the wider stance would be great, but not as necessary. As far as the look, I really could care less. I didn't buy the PT for it looks. So I guess it just boils down to safety versus possible added cost later on. I suspect you are right about the 180 and 422 being the same wheel motors. I'm sure someone on here knows for sure.

KentT · Jun 1, 2006

Re: PT-425 PROS & cons??

( Well I do think there is a lot of logic in what J.J. says. Mechanically speaking, more stress does add up to shorter wheel life, along with any bearing or seals. The question is how much of a shorter life are you willing to settle for? 800 hours instead of 1000 who really knows?)

Yep, and your car would last much longer if you only drove freeway miles -- barring a high speed accident /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif...

However, I have to take 20+ miles of two-lane roads to work.... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Is it really true that JJ lives in the mountains of Florida? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

KentT · Jun 1, 2006

Re: PT-425 PROS & cons??

( Well I do think there is a lot of logic in what J.J. says. Mechanically speaking, more stress does add up to shorter wheel life, along with any bearing or seals. The question is how much of a shorter life are you willing to settle for? 800 hours instead of 1000 who really knows?)

Yep, and your car would last much longer if you only drove freeway miles -- barring a high speed accident /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif...

However, I have to take 20+ miles of two-lane roads to work.... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Is it really true that JJ lives in the mountains of Florida? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

MossRoad · Jun 1, 2006

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Hardy har har, fellas! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

As long as no one gripes when it breaks I suppose it's O.K.

As for a backhoe on a 425, why, that's a highly engineered piece of equipment that falls well withing my tollerance for financial discomfort should anything go wrong. Don't forget, I have a stick welder and torches and am willing to use them! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

MossRoad · Jun 1, 2006

Re: PT-425 PROS & cons??

Hardy har har, fellas! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

As long as no one gripes when it breaks I suppose it's O.K.

As for a backhoe on a 425, why, that's a highly engineered piece of equipment that falls well withing my tollerance for financial discomfort should anything go wrong. Don't forget, I have a stick welder and torches and am willing to use them! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

IslandTractor · Jun 2, 2006

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 I'd reverse mine immediately if it would still fit in the back of my pickup. 

As this is technically a pros and cons thread on the PT425 let me point out that you guys need to make the "pickup truck transport without a trailer" /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif fact better known to the tractor buying community has a whole. That is one of the most outstanding "features" of the PT425 and deserves to be hollered out to all the shoppers comparing the PT to a CUT.

IslandTractor · Jun 2, 2006

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 I'd reverse mine immediately if it would still fit in the back of my pickup. 

As this is technically a pros and cons thread on the PT425 let me point out that you guys need to make the "pickup truck transport without a trailer" /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif fact better known to the tractor buying community has a whole. That is one of the most outstanding "features" of the PT425 and deserves to be hollered out to all the shoppers comparing the PT to a CUT.

MossRoad · Jun 2, 2006

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O.K. I'll shout it out...

I CAN FIT MY PT425 WITH A 4' BRUSH HOG ATTACHED INTO THE REAR OF A STANDARD 3/4 TON 8' PICKUP TRUCK!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Not just the brush hog, but a 5' finish mower, a 5' power angle snow plow, a large bucket on the FEL, just about any attachment. Fits nice, rides nice, makes for quick transport, too. The loading ramps from PT are very strong and cost about a hundred bucks. You just have to find a way to secure them to the bed (not the tailgate) of the pickup truck. Heavy ratchet straps to the frame would work fine. I chose to use steel pipe and rebar. I welded one section of pipe to the underside of the ramp and another section to the top of my steel bumper. I then slipped a piece of rebar through both pieces of pipe and the ramp is secured to the truck. We used this method to secure steel plates between railcars to load 5 ton army trucks, so I'm pretty sure it will hold a 1500 pound tractor with attachment. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif