PTO generator volt meter upgrade.

   / PTO generator volt meter upgrade. #1  

vsteel

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I recently got a good deal on a Voltmaster PTO 15/12 generator on craigslist. While it ran great the volt meter is hard to see from the tractor seat and while I could have marked the gauge so I could just rev the tractor until the needle is in the green I thought I would try and add a better option.

I ordered a volt - current - watts - frequency digital meter just to see if it would be better. I ordered a
ACM2-4-AC1-R-F-C Murata Power Solutions Inc. | Industrial Controls | DigiKey
This meter is self powered and it can read up to 100 amps.

Here is a picture of where I started.
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There are 3 connections for the meter, a positive, negative and one of the main current wires needs to go through the transformer. If you look at your generator there is already going to be a voltage connection for the existing meter and that is what I used for my meter. There are really not a ton of wires you just need to make sure you keep the polarity straight. My meter had it marked, if yours doesn't you can figure it out from your generator wiring diagram. Here is a picture of my generator with the back cover removed. The original volt meter is still connected.
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The generator is a 2 pole and so it just had 3 large wires coming from it. Two are 120V legs and a neutral. I chose to hook it up so it would read the 240 voltage, but there are also wiring diagrams for the 120v if that is what you prefer. You do need to pay attention to the coil as it is directional. The dot goes toward the generator. You will want to look inside of your machine before you order this meter as the current coil only has about 3-4 inches of wire so you can't run it deeper into the generator unless you plan to cut and splice the wires. My generator the main power wires ran right behind the gauge so I was OK. Just something to keep in mind.

Here is a picture of the meter stuck through the existing hole. If you look you can see the black shiny current coil just inside the hole, One of the main current wires is running through it but because the wire is black you can't really see it. The white wire is the neutral so I have no connections to it. it just happens to run right beside the 2 black power wires. The wires sticking out of the generator are my voltage wires I am going to hook to the meter.

Here it is all hooked up and running. The voltage is a little off but it is close enough for me and I didn't bother to track down if it was a connection that made it off or if the meter I received was a little off. You can have the meter calibrated by sending it off if you really desired but I was more concerned with frequency which is very close and actually matched the meter most of the time, I just happened to catch when it jumped the tenths digit for a second.

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I can easily see it from the tractor and you can either select which reading it will start up on and after going you can push the select button for 3 seconds and it will continuously cycle through all settings. I go off of the cycles so the voltage being off isn't a killer. I also have not calibrated my hand held meter. I know it is going to kill some people but I have access to 17025 calibrated equipment and I have not verified my meter against it.

Let me know if you have any questions but if nothing I hope that this post shows that it isn't terrible hard to do this yourself. If you have issues with the meter on your generator, take your time and read the directions and you can do it yourself.
 
   / PTO generator volt meter upgrade. #2  
Thanks, good info. :thumbsup:
 
   / PTO generator volt meter upgrade. #3  
Yup, frequency is definitely the important bit. Need to set PTO RPM precisely to get that right. The voltage regulator in the generator needs adjustment if the voltage isn't in the right ballpark.

I'm in the process of rewiring my ancient Winpower generator for Anderson connectors (cheaper buying both plug ends than just 1 end of the old pin style). It only has a voltage meter on it, no frequency meter so I've been thinking about doing a similar setup.
 
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Howdy,
The digital display is one of the many reasons which led me to a Tiger Power PTO generator.

I would suggest that anyone with a PTO generator with older analog displays, should do something similar.

Nice write up

 
   / PTO generator volt meter upgrade. #5  
Howdy,
The Anderson plugs work really good here.

My Tiger Power PTO is 30kw, and uses the large SB350 plugs and 2/0 wire.

PTO back panel hookup.jpg SB350 hookup.jpg
 
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Ya, I'm a fan of Power Poles (15-45@ Anderson's often used for HAM radio & other 12v stuff) & have started changing all my jumper cables, battery chargers & winch gear over to the 175s.

I had the solar guys put in a generator disconnect when I got my grid tied solar system. They put in a 100a rated marine pin & sleeve socket. Plug or socket alone on that is $300-400. Tearing it out without ever using it. For $100 I can get 4 Anderson plugs ("plug" & "socket" for both sides) at under half the cost one side of that pin & sleeve setup.
 
   / PTO generator volt meter upgrade. #7  
My tractor is set up with 2 Andersons.
The large set is for jump starting as my cables are also Anderson fitted. Make jumping a breeze.
The other set is the smaller configuration that serves for my fueling pump setup plus inverter power when needed.
Smaller one has an auto reset breaker while th large 'booster' one is unprotected but very well isolated.
 
   / PTO generator volt meter upgrade. #8  
That is interesting. The cheap ebay meter I put on my generator is also a few volts low on the voltage but the hertz is dead on.

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   / PTO generator volt meter upgrade.
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#9  
I never checked the meter to see if it is the meter or if there is a slightly resistive connection. My hand held meter could be off a couple of volts as well. I didn't dig into it.
 
   / PTO generator volt meter upgrade. #10  
Are any of those weatherproof? Or if not have they held up to the weather?
 
 

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