Pto question

[Eyewater]

I recently acquired a brand new 60" KK tiller for my 7 year old BX2230 Kubota. Yes, I know it's bigger than I need and bigger than might be recommended but it was such a deal I couldn't resist. If it proves too much for my tractor to handle I'll just take a set of tines off. It had been sitting in the rain in its crate with the pto shaft and it's manual getting wet for however long. The pto manual is about a 3" x 4" pamphlet with the letters RPM on the front page. The pages are all stuck together. Anyone know the brand and where I might get a manual so I can see what it says about the slip clutch end of the shaft?

The issue I have is, it has a regular cinch pin on one end and a slip clutch on the other with a bolt. The end with the slip clutch doesn't have a cinch pin it has a 3/4" bolt with nut and spring washer. It is just a pig to insert, tighten and remove as it is forward of the slip clutch so you can't see it. Being behind the clutch and covered by the pto shaft safety housing it's tricky to get two sockets in one for the bolt head and one for the nut to tighten or loosen the bolt. Is there a reason this end has a bolt and could it be changed for a cinch pin?

 

[Muhammad]

Welcome to TBN.

 

[RoyJackson]

Welcome to TBN!!!

Since you wrote the tiller is a King Kutter then the best place to try for a replacement manual is the King Kutter website.

I'm having a hard time visualizing your PTO driveshaft...especially the use of cinch pins. A "cinch pin" is, from what I know of them, a spring clip to use in place of a cotter pin. Is that what you mean?

 

[moored4]

If you could post pictures it might help alot to understand what you are asking!

I think that your talking about the shear bolt but am not sure. :confused2:

 

[Ductape]

On the slip clutch end, it is meant to be on there permanently..... thus the nut and bolt.

 

[kensnelling]

Welcome to TBN From Oklahoma.

Ken

 

[boggen]

kingcutter.com

you may need to initial break in the slip clutch.... burn off the new ness on slip clutch so it will work correctly, and you will most likely need to adjust the slip clutch for your tractor and implement. and may need to re-adjust slip clutch after it has been setting for some time, due to possibly seizing up with rust or something else.

you may need to shorten the PTO shaft for your tractor.
PTO shafts come only a few lengths, and then folks are required to pull the PT shaft in half. and cut each end down as needed. to work for there tractor and implement they are using.

everythingattachements.com i know has some videos of dealing with slip clutch and shorten the PTO shaft as needed.

majority of the time the PTO shaft is just left on the implement, and never removed beyond initial test fitting the PTO shaft. and the PTO shaft is just connected / reconnect on back of tractor when ever you hook up.
reason? because most implements require different PTO shaft lengths even for same tractor they are hooked up to. there are also different PTO shafts rated for different HP. hence the slip clutch end having a bolt. to permanently attach to the tiller.

the other side of the PTO shaft that connects to tractor. more likely has a "push button" to initial lock PTO shaft onto back of tractor. then a secondary hole. to place a pin in. you can get into a few situations were dirt or a weed could possibly hit the button causing PTO shaft to come off the rear end of tractor and wip up at you. hence secondary pin. to lock PTO shaft on back of tractor.

 

[Briana03]

Welcome to TBN

I moved your thread to the Attachments Forum.

 

[ruffdog]

I have the same tiller. The bolt you are talking about cinches the pto shaft collar onto the shaft going into the gear box. Once assembled I have not undone the pto shaft at that point and don't know why you would. I disconnect the pto shaft from the tractor and hang the shaft from a wire.

 

[Eyewater]

Thanks everyone for the advice. I had to shorten the pto shaft. I took the slip clutch apart and reassembled it, as suggested. I had to take the shaft off again and tighten the clutch some more as it just slipped when I put it in the ground for the first time.
For some wooly-headed reason I had put the slip clutch end of the shaft on the output pto on the tractor when the obviously sensible answer is to have it on the implement input where it would stay. Duh!!
For anyone thinking of putting a 5' tiller on a 22hp tractor, it works. I ran it at half depth though previously worked ground at maybe half throttle with no problem. Maybe if it was hard and rocky it would complain some but it wasn't even breathing hard today. Full depth tomorrow!