I believe the part that's 'confusing' is getting off the seat FIRST...before engaging the PTO. That's what got me hung up. I kept thinking I could have everything in neutral, brake on and then get off the seat. You have to get off the seat first. It would be more useful if you could engage while in the seat and then get off without killing it. It's an issue (like I said in my other thread) when mowing. You can't leave the PTO engaged even if everything is neutral and brake on. Sort of defeats the purpose of having the PTO run while off the seat...at least when it comes to mowing, in that specific circumstance.
Sites like this and truck forums (for example) crack me up. No offense to anyone and I'm not pointing fingers (really), but these sites tend to have resident experts that know the answer to everything. Not necessarily related to this thread...but it's an observation I've made over time when looking at sites like this. Someone gets a truck, tractor or whatever and operates it for a few years and the next thing you know, a newbie comes along and gets whacked for asking stupid questions...LOL /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif That's why I tend to lay low unless I'm lazy about looking something up or really can't figure it out. These sites are a good resource, but sometimes people can be a little abbrasive or short. I make no claims of being the expert farmer, etc. My day job is telecommunications and I do think I qualify as an expert in that field after 15 years or so in the business and high praise from my customers and managment. So if you have a business phone system/voice mail/video conference system question, fire away!...LOL Unless I have real experience with an issue someone is having here, I usually keep my lips zipped...unless I know where in the manual to point someone if it's a simple "it's in the manual" response that's appropriate. One thing people have to keep in mind here (on the internet) is that it's difficult to determine someone's mood or state of mind since there's no way to hear a person's tone of voice or see facial expressions. It's easy to get the wrong impression sometimes. I think that's what everyone should remember.
By the way (I might get shot for this), think about it. We're talking tractors here...mainly compact utility tractors. Do you think the vast number of real experts out there are watching this forum?...the people running combines and other large and extremely complex equipment all day long? No. They're out farming or doing whatever it is they do for a living with their tractor. Most of us here are part-timers on the tractors we own and simply love operating them and sharing our experiences. I don't know any farmers (although there may be some here) that follow forums on the net and spend a lot of time here. Like I said, they're mostly out working and couldn't care less about a tractor web site. That's just the truth of the matter if you think about it. I follow a truck forum (pickups) too and the same sort of thing goes on over there too. People picking on each other over petty things about who knows the most about trucks or who can find what in the manual better than someone else. If I didn't have the proper perspective on the issue of web forums, I'd go crazy. But since I do, I get a giggle now and then when people get all worked up over things people type on the internet. Honestly, I'll never meet any of you and I doubt most of you will meet anyone on here either. Don't stuff so personally /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif But then again, think about impressions you might leave with what you type (unless you add the proper amount of smileys so people know you're friendly or joking).
I don't think this is what happened here with this thread...I think the person got the wrong impression based on simple text with no smileys, etc. This whole issue with this thread going the wrong way just reminded me of how things happen on forums. In general, I think what I've said above is true...if you stop and think about it. We see it all the time. I learned to not get worked up about what people type. It's just text and I'll never meet the goofballs anyway /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Have a great day folks /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
P.S. Before anyone gets the wrong impression /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif ...I know for a fact there are some VERY experienced people on here based on some of the responses to various threads I've read. I'm just saying, the majority of us here are simple tractor lovers that like to spend time on the machine and share experiences and answer questions when possible. I think we can all agree that the huge majority of people who know tractors like the back of their hand don't visit online discussion forums. Just like the vast majoirty of pickup truck owners don't. The membership of one truck forum I follow is several thousand. Ford alone sells around 1 million F series trucks every year...but you don't see millions of F series members on the forum. That's what I mean.
