PTO Speed Increaser

[repete]

Anyone here use a PTO speed increaser?

 

[CliffordK]

There was a recent discussion here.

540 pto to 1000 conversion on spader

Hello, looking for help with a possible project. We were advised to convert our spader (Imants SE115RH) with a 540 pto to a 1000 pto. Our tractor (Kubota m5660) doesn't have a creeper gear which means we are spading to fast and not getting the outcome we want. We're hoping that this...

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I don't know what became of it.

I'd like to speed my tiller up, but perhaps the best method is to mess around with the belts.

 

[LouNY]

I have never found an inexpensive pto step up unit. If your tractor has 540 and 1000 you can try to run implements on the 1000 rpm shaft and throttling down to half speed for the correct implement speed but usually your engine will lug and not respond well. Some tractors will have a 540E mode which works nicely quite often. I have not seen a reasonably priced gearbox the replicates a 540E or 720 rpm at rated speed. I have seem several gearboxes to get 1800 or 3600 rpm from a 540 input.
Here is a 540 to 1800 unit;

 

[LouNY]

This outfit has several gearboxs many setup for pto input;
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[CliffordK]

You also have to watch the rotational direction. Some implements may work with either direction of rotation (or on a tiller it may change from throwing the dirt back to throwing it forward).

Other implements may not work going backwards. I don't imagine balers like being driven backwards.

 

[leonz]

Anyone here use a PTO speed increaser?

Before you wander into the weeds, you should contact Pronovost in Quebec, Canada and
ask where they buy thier speed increasers for thier snow blowers.

You have to understand that a speed increaser may not work well with a tiller AND changing
V belt pulleys and belts will not gain you anything due to the resistance of the soil.

 

[repete]

Thanks everyone for the replies.

 

[workinonit]

Before you wander into the weeds, you should contact Pronovost in Quebec, Canada and
ask where they buy thier speed increasers for thier snow blowers.

You have to understand that a speed increaser may not work well with a tiller AND changing
V belt pulleys and belts will not gain you anything due to the resistance of the soil.

I'm just curious, what is the difference in a speed multiplier and EPTO? From a tiller perspective? I understand fooling with the belts is probably not a good idea. I never take my tractor out of EPTO no matter which implement I have attached, including my tiller.

 

[dieselscout80]

I'm just curious, what is the difference in a speed multiplier and EPTO? From a tiller perspective? I understand fooling with the belts is probably not a good idea. I never take my tractor out of EPTO no matter which implement I have attached, including my tiller.

As I understand EPTO it is for when you do NOT need your full PTO HP, so it allows for 540 RPM at a lower engine RPM. From what you said it sounds like you could use a lower HP tractor, but it would be worked harder.

I think the guys that are wanting a PTO speed multiplier are wanting to do the same thing on a tractor without a factory provided EPTO functionality.

 

[workinonit]

I completely understand that and agree with it for the most part. I just fail to see how a speed multiplier is any different from EPTO form a tiller and HP perspective.
Very, very seldom do we need our full PTO HP. I pull a 21' Frontier FM and a 10' Maschio flail mower in EPTO and notice no HP issues at all. My tiller doesn't even phase my tractor.

 

[zzvyb6]

I use an Elomatic speed reducer (intended to INCREASE pto speed for pumps, compressors, generators, etc.) to operate my PTO genny off of my F935 2000 rpm mower drive pto. Yes, the genny runs backwards and there is redundant speed down and speed up in the system. It's good for 12kW which is plenty in my neck of the woods. I monitor Hz using a Kill-A-Watt. Governor does a good job maintaining rpm.

 

[workinonit]

Is that the deck you use for cutting grass? I don't see the gear box for the blade drive.

 

[zzvyb6]

Is that the deck you use for cutting grass? I don't see the gear box for the blade drive.

It is. The reducer sits above the deck gearbox. The shaft is long enough to extend out to it. Because the input is coaxial to the 'tractor's pto, there is no phasing issue/problem as it remains in a C.V. configuration..

 

[workinonit]

Nice adaptation.