PTO water pump delima

[pmsmechanic]

Are you handy with a welder? I would build a pump/IBC tote all in one that I hook onto the three point of the tractor, back up to the pond, lower the pump and fill the tote. The pump just needs to be a simple fin shaped apparatus directly driven through u-joints from the pto. Design a volute around the fins and direct the water with a hose into the tote. A simple screen over the center of the volute will screen the water good enough for what you plan on doing. A wooden bearing would be adequate on the pump end to avoid getting water in a regular bearing.

 

[sea2summit]

This is what I use. I've used it both for filling my 300 gallon tank from the creek and pumping water for my newly transplanted conifers. The water from the creek is pretty clean and I use a screen on the inlet side. So far I have not damaged the pump from contaminants. The volume this pump puts out is impressive so much so, that I have to run my 2025R at just above idle speed to avoid dispersing too much water. But I have some trees that I can't get my trailer and pump close to so the huge volume of water this pump moves allows me to get the water to the trees.

https://www.agrisupply.com/images/xxl/12242.jpg?v=20201024083443

Found that one in my research after I started this thread, looks like what I need!

 

[sea2summit]

A pto trash pump will work and the small one is rated at 180gpm.

PTO Trash Pumps - Water Pumps Direct

That痴 like four Honda fire pumps:ashamed:

 

[sea2summit]

Are you handy with a welder? I would build a pump/IBC tote all in one that I hook onto the three point of the tractor, back up to the pond, lower the pump and fill the tote. The pump just needs to be a simple fin shaped apparatus directly driven through u-joints from the pto. Design a volute around the fins and direct the water with a hose into the tote. A simple screen over the center of the volute will screen the water good enough for what you plan on doing. A wooden bearing would be adequate on the pump end to avoid getting water in a regular bearing.

That’s kind of the direction I’m going. With a no pass valve so I can pull from the pond or from the tank so when I get to wherever I can just take the output hose and stick it where I need the water.

I weld but I’m still teaching myself off of YouTubes of dubious credibility so don’t know if that qualifies as “handy”

 

[pmsmechanic]

That’s kind of the direction I’m going. With a no pass valve so I can pull from the pond or from the tank so when I get to wherever I can just take the output hose and stick it where I need the water.

I weld but I’m still teaching myself off of YouTubes of dubious credibility so don’t know if that qualifies as “handy”

Another idea that just popped up in my mind would be to use a hydraulic motor instead of a pto shaft. Just get a taper lock hub and a sprocket to weld your fins onto and build the housing around that. It would be easier to build than with a pto shaft and I'm thinking the final cost wouldn't be a whole lot different either. You could tack weld what you build and then take it to a welder for the final welding if you have concerns about your own ability's.

I once built an impeller for a snow blower out of a 2' square of 3/8th's metal. I had a machine shop cut a hole in the exact center and then welded a hub in for a browning taper lock hub. I weighed every piece of metal that I welded on and used the same amount of welding rod for each piece. I then took it to the tire shop and had it balanced on a tire balancer. I welded on a one ounce piece of steel to get everything in balance. So you could do it also if you had too.

 

[mikester]

I fill my totes from a pond. I bought a chinesium gas powered 2" pump brand new on sale for $180 and it fills the IBC totes super fast at about 150 gallons a minute. Tote would be full in under 2 minutes using the tote couplers. Honda clone motor and plastic pump body. That's cheaper than any PTO or hydraulic powered pump I could find.

Here is a similar one for $260 regular price
2 in. Gas Water Pump | Princess Auto

I also use a couple of totes to capture rain water from the down spouts. Gets refilled for free.

 

[52wej]

Two 300 gal totes on a farm wagon, 1 HF !" pump. Takes about 15-20 minutes to fill and I have totes linked together so I can use pump to irrigate garden. Runs 4 sprinklers at idle without any problem. Only time consuming issue is going to creek with tractor and wagon which is more than a mile away. But I have been doing this for more than 20 years and in a drought the garden does well. Takes less than 1 quart gas to run complete cycle per trip. Two trips and I have irrigated our 5000 sq ft garden for the week.

When I bought the HF pump I could not find a Honda pump. But it has been satisfactory. I had a two stroke Robin motor and pump that worked well. It used more fuel mixture, but lasted for many years.

Regardless of the pump keep fuel treatment in them and they will always be ready to work for you. W. Jones

 

[fried1765]

A pto trash pump will work and the small one is rated at 180gpm.

PTO Trash Pumps - Water Pumps Direct

$3569 for that PTO trash pump?
I would buy a 500' roll of 6/2 w/ground and run a line to the pond.
No tractor or PTO necessary!