Question 4 you . . . Backdraging with the Bucket EDGE?

[NHmitch]

I caused considerable damage to an older ford tractor doing this.. I bent both of the lift rods to 90 degree angles while dragging sand in my pasture. I will never use the bucket for this again. A box blade is designed for that task with much less possibility of damage to expensive components. I also bent the clevis pens that attach the bucket and spent a day hammering them out. Hard and expensive lesson, so I will not do it again.

 

[TripleR]

Like most others, I always have and always will. If I break it, I'll fix it.

 

[k0ua]

Like most others, I always have and always will. If I break it, I'll fix it.

There you go, i just re-welded my bucket last weekend, but I am not going to stop prying on things with it. Sure use common sense, and stop before you twist the loader arms, but heck I buy the thing to use, not look at. Even my new Kioti bucket has all the paint wore off of the bottom and some of the sides.. And I have painted the Kubota bucket about a million times to keep the rust on the upper side at bay. But you can never win the rust war completely, just skirmish with it.

James K0UA

 

[JDgreen227]

Have always backdragged with my bucket edge, I ordered the 61 inch HD Deere bucket and it is so reinforced it will probably outlast me so who cares about backdragging with the bucket edge? AND THAT METHOD IS WHAT THE DEERE MANUAL RECOMMENDS.

 

[TripleR]

There you go, i just re-welded my bucket last weekend, but I am not going to stop prying on things with it. Sure use common sense, and stop before you twist the loader arms, but heck I buy the thing to use, not look at. Even my new Kioti bucket has all the paint wore off of the bottom and some of the sides.. And I have painted the Kubota bucket about a million times to keep the rust on the upper side at bay. But you can never win the rust war completely, just skirmish with it.

James K0UA

James, I suspect that weld was just a sign the Kubota bucket was "rejecting" the transplant to a Kiot, the orange paint only fooled it for a little while.:laughing::laughing:

 

[k0ua]

James, I suspect that weld was just a sign the Kubota bucket was "rejecting" the transplant to a Kiot, the orange paint only fooled it for a little while.:laughing::laughing:

Yeah just kinda like a heart transplant gone bad.. Poor old thing, feels all alone now, and being pushed hard by a huge new taskmaster.. yeee-haaw. I really think the Japanese guy came in a little over-saki-ed one Monday morning and welded that left side of the bucket about so so and called it good. The right side has way more weld metal on it than the left ever had. Course my digging up stumps and rock and crap doesn't help much. If you will remember that is the poor old bucket I converted from Pin On to QA anyway. It has felt the "sting" of my welder before!

James K0UA

 

[TripleR]

Yeah just kinda like a heart transplant gone bad.. Poor old thing, feels all alone now, and being pushed hard by a huge new taskmaster.. yeee-haaw. I really think the Japanese guy came in a little over-saki-ed one Monday morning and welded that left side of the bucket about so so and called it good. The right side has way more weld metal on it than the left ever had. Course my digging up stumps and rock and crap doesn't help much. If you will remember that is the poor old bucket I converted from Pin On to QA anyway. It has felt the "sting" of my welder before!

James K0UA

I saw the pictures and agree it wasn't right from the start. I took welding in high school Vo Ag and our welds had to be stronger than the surrounding metal to pass.

 

[gwdixon]

I think back dragging is something to be done with care. I never angle my bucket more than about 45 degrees. Most of the time it is set in float mode. Otherwise a lot of force and stress will be put on the cylinders and frame of the FEL.

If you back drag with a bucket at 90 degrees, making it work like a blade, it will eventually cause a problem when it hangs up on something.

 

[k0ua]

I think back dragging is something to be done with care. I never angle my bucket more than about 45 degrees. Most of the time it is set in float mode. Otherwise a lot of force and stress will be put on the cylinders and frame of the FEL.

If you back drag with a bucket at 90 degrees, making it work like a blade, it will eventually cause a problem when it hangs up on something.

Oh I agree with that completely, when I say back-dragging, I am talking about less than 45 degrees and the lift in float for sure. Back-dragging is for smoothing gravel and dirt. Soft stuff. Not trying to dig up something.

James K0UA

 

[Chilly807]

Oh I agree with that completely, when I say back-dragging, I am talking about less than 45 degrees and the lift in float for sure. Back-dragging is for smoothing gravel and dirt. Soft stuff. Not trying to dig up something.

James K0UA

I don't usually float mine unless moving snow, and never while back-dragging. I feel as long as the bucket doesn't hook solid behind something the loader will take it.

Sean