Question for the Bush hoggers

   / Question for the Bush hoggers #11  
These skids I mentioned were meant to be the only support. There was no provision for a tailwheel, and the skids were taller (lower?) and wider than the skids on a regular cutter.

There was a lot of homemade equipment on small farms in the 40's and 50's after welders became common. Those I saw may have been homemade.

Cutters were often tongue-pulled as 3pt hitches were rare. They had two wheels on the side or rear.

Here's the first image I found.

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Bruce

I stand corrected. I had not seen one like this.
 
   / Question for the Bush hoggers #12  
1952 Ford mower as pictured. Has a triangle on the back supporting a tail wheel. The back flap was removed for better discharge. It was not used in town after the flap removal because of rock tossing.
 
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#13  
Thank you all for the sensible comments. Now I have enough to digest.
In another topic, this my vintage and probably modified machine. Even though I may not use this equipment frequently, I just painted it because I hate rusty brown.
I have no idea what brand this machine is. Not that makes too much difference, but out of curiosity, does anyone recognize the brand?
 

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   / Question for the Bush hoggers #14  
That's an odd critter, never seen one with the gearbox up so high. Does the red vertical tube turn or is there a shaft inside of it? What supports the blades?

The ones I've used typically mount the blade holder directly to the gearbox output shaft hence the questions.

Also make sure you're running a slip clutch with a splined gearbox input.
 
   / Question for the Bush hoggers #15  
I personally wouldnt ever run without the tailwheels. They keep the cutter from bouncing at every little bump and flexing and stressing things. Those bumps and flexing and stressing cause a crappy and uneven cut.
 
   / Question for the Bush hoggers #16  
Having no tail wheels is a common design in other countries.
 

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That's an odd critter, never seen one with the gearbox up so high. Does the red vertical tube turn or is there a shaft inside of it? What supports the blades?

The ones I've used typically mount the blade holder directly to the gearbox output shaft hence the questions.

Also make sure you're running a slip clutch with a splined gearbox input.

The shaft runs inside. I am not sure what support the blades, all I know the blades are attached to the dish which is attached to the shaft. Yes there is a slip clutch to the gear box input. This machine has evidence of farmarization, but it is a solid working machine, for my purpose anyway.
BTW for the sake of clarity, I do not do field work. Occasionally I clear a small vegetation area and the tail wheels would just get in the way.

P.S. Actually looking again at the design, I like the high gear box. While operating, it keeps the drive shaft parallel with the tractor PTO shaft (less stress, I think). I limit the 3PT lift to a small amount.
 
   / Question for the Bush hoggers #18  
In the 80s we had a brush hog with a combination. Steel bars connected with chains approximately 24" long. Never had any issues with it. The rear wheel was an important part of the mower the way we used it. We wrapped chains around it to pull logs and other heavy stuff. The mower prevented the tractor from flipping over backward as well. During clean up and brush burning, we used it to shove logs and piles of brush. The wheel frame assembly took the punishment and not the less structured mowing deck. My Dad was old school. We never had a front end loader. That was a waste of money, and he had me for manual labor (I think)...I will never by a tractor without one or without 4 wheel drive.
 
   / Question for the Bush hoggers #19  
My 9' wide double axis cutter was originally skids only; I added tail wheels.

I sometimes remove the wheels, as the OP, for working in woods and rough ground. Mine hangs from rope at the rear, and [of course] the 3-point at the front; when on skids, I set the top link to tension the ropes and hold + - half the weight.

I use the wheels for "lawn" mowing.
We don't really have a lawn, more like 3 acres of close cropped weeds...
 
   / Question for the Bush hoggers #20  
Over here in Europe, it's very rare to see a mower with tail wheels. Unless it's a double or triple mower that really need wheels to support. Some brands will offer the tail wheel as an option but it is not the common. Most of them are also equipped with chain support instead of a rigid support. The skids on most of them are also height adjusted.
I think it's just another way of making things. The only con I see on the tail wheel, is just the risk of breaking it when backing against some higher/heavier brush. In the end, they all do the same job.

Here is a video of my mower working a little bit.
 

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