Question for those who live in California

[jyoutz]

Oh no, they're told to conform to the Walmart standard! Have you Walmart shoppers felt emasculated when you go in and see this? Did you ever go back?

From your article:
"VERIFY found that some major retail chains including Target and Walmart started to remove gender-based labels from their toy sections nearly a decade ago. Walmart, for example, categorizes toys by product type".

"California Assemblymember Evan Low, the bill’s author, told the Associated Press he was inspired by the 10-year-old daughter of one of his staffers, who asked her mom why certain items in the store were “off limits” to her because she was a girl.

“If a little girl wants a science kit or a dinosaur to play with, she shouldn’t have to ask her parent if she can go to the ‘boy’s department,’” Low told VERIFY in a statement."

"California retailers with 500 or more California-based employees that sell kids toys ... require these large retail department stores to provide a gender-neutral section for toys and other childcare items. The law does not outlaw traditional boys and girls sections at department stores. Instead, it says large stores must also have a gender-neutral section."

Seems like any successful store will already be in compliance.

What’s wrong with just “toys?”

 

[MAX-24-Dean]

As luck would have it I just received my WA property tax bill.

Washington tax bill is now over 20k ($20,304.35)

It just might be prohibitively too expensive to leave California after all.

You just need to buy property on the "right" side of the state where property values are less and where Prosecuting Attorneys/Sherriffs actually do there jobs.
10 acres with newer houses and the property taxes are less than $3,000 in a lot of counties east of the casecade mountains.

 

[ultrarunner]

You just need to buy property on the "right" side of the state where property values are less and where Prosecuting Attorneys/Sherriffs actually do there jobs.
10 acres with newer houses and the property taxes are less than $3,000 in a lot of counties east of the casecade mountains.

My friends 4th generation Washington are 4th generation Washington and on the Western boarder of Thurston county.

The pointed nearby and said if our home was two parcels over the property tax would be a fraction of what we pay to be in Thurston county.

Then they explained a new multi million dollar fire house that was built but shuttered due to lack of funds… Summit Lake.

 

[Sigarms]

What’s wrong with just “toys?”

What's wrong with just "unisex bathroom"? LOL

I will admit, on our stay out there in California, most gas stations and other places we stopped at had unisex bathrooms which I thought was a great idea.

I always hated going to a gas station in NC and having to relieve myself in at a bathroom where they had one womans and one mens bathroom labled (generally one hopper and one urinal for men).

My luck, whenever I had to go, I always got stuck with a guy reading war and peace on the hopper because I have no clue what they're doing in their for 10 minutes or more.

Now, not certain what California does for large paid events like concerts or the movies, but that's where I love separate sex bathrooms. Although I don't generally go to large public events, at our sons graduation in Texas, I walk into the large mens bathroom, and it's in and out. When I came out of the mens bathroom, the womens bathroom had a line like you wouldn't believe (no different at airports) and it seems women are SOL when it comes to short lines at a public event bathroom LOL

I do know sometimes in NC when I got to go and I'm stuck behind a book club reader at a one stall public bathroom, I just use the womans bathroom FAST and get in and out LOL.

That said, twice in my life I went into the WRONG public bathroom. Once as a kid at the Smithsonian, and once one a cub scout trip snow tubing in West Virginia. I never heard the end of that one from my boys on the trip back to NC as I was stupid enough to mention it. Just interesting when you go in and it hits you that something just doesen't look right, but you can't put your fingers on it (one in WV). The one in DC I'll never forget, go in, the place is empty, close the door and sit on the hopper. I was starting to wonder WHY I was hearing women's voices LOL

 

[Oaktree]

My buddy who had one taught me for the VW rabbit and Golf that I owned.

He took the rear seat out, built up a platform for sleeping, and stored stuff under the sleeping platform. There was SO MUCH room in that vehicle it was unbelievable.

That's what I did with my VW.s Took out the passenger side rear seat, built up a platform, could sleep in the in the back with very little issues (couldn't lay straight flat out LOL).

Back in the 80s I had a Dodge Omni with the fastback rear hatch. I'd just fold down the rear seat and sleep in it when I'd do a road trip. If I pushed the passenger's front seat all the way forward and slept diagonally it wasn't too uncomfortable, even for someone a bit over 6'. No modifications necessary. I did add a set of louvers to the back window for some semblance of privacy.
Got an Acadia now, and with both sets of rear seats folded down I can stretch out with a little room to spare.

"VERIFY found that some major retail chains including Target and Walmart started to remove gender-based labels from their toy sections nearly a decade ago. Walmart, for example, categorizes toys by product type".

"California Assemblymember Evan Low, the bill’s author, told the Associated Press he was inspired by the 10-year-old daughter of one of his staffers, who asked her mom why certain items in the store were “off limits” to her because she was a girl.

“If a little girl wants a science kit or a dinosaur to play with, she shouldn’t have to ask her parent if she can go to the ‘boy’s department,’” Low told VERIFY in a statement."

"California retailers with 500 or more California-based employees that sell kids toys ... require these large retail department stores to provide a gender-neutral section for toys and other childcare items. The law does not outlaw traditional boys and girls sections at department stores. Instead, it says large stores must also have a gender-neutral section."

No kids of my own, so it's been many decades since I visited the toy dept., but even as a kid I don't remember there being designated "girls" or "boys" sections, though the traditional girl toys (dolls, etc) were all together as were traditional boy toys (toy trucks, erector sets). Does this new law prohibit that?

 

[Oaktree]

I will admit, on our stay out there in California, most gas stations and other places we stopped at had unisex bathrooms which I thought was a great idea.

I always hated going to a gas station in NC and having to relieve myself in at a bathroom where they had one womans and one mens bathroom labled (generally one hopper and one urinal for men).

What never made sense to me was separate men's & women's bathrooms when there was no difference between them...just a hopper and a sink, no urinal.
Years ago had a friend who had ulcerative colitis, and when he had to "go" he HAD TO GO! More than once he used the ladies' room if that was the only one free.

 

[EddieWalker]

My High School job was working at the Ice Rink at the Mall. One of the things I had to do was clean the bathrooms. It's real easy to tell the boys bathroom from the girls bathroom. The girls bathroom is a disaster. Totally disgusting how dirty it is. They poop on the edge of the toilet, the floor is covered in pee and poop. Toile paper that has been used is all over the floor. It was night and day different compared to the boys bathroom that usually just needed to have a few things picked up and then mop the floor. Ten minutes to clean the boys bathroom, and hour in the girls bathroom.

 

[MAX-24-Dean]

My High School job was working at the Ice Rink at the Mall. One of the things I had to do was clean the bathrooms. It's real easy to tell the boys bathroom from the girls bathroom. The girls bathroom is a disaster. Totally disgusting how dirty it is. They poop on the edge of the toilet, the floor is covered in pee and poop. Toile paper that has been used is all over the floor. It was night and day different compared to the boys bathroom that usually just needed to have a few things picked up and then mop the floor. Ten minutes to clean the boys bathroom, and hour in the girls bathroom.

Did a 4 month stint at an industrial facilty as a commercial janitor. We had 1,200 employees at the time. And I have to say from my experience you hit the nail on the head.

 

[Sigarms]

My High School job was working at the Ice Rink at the Mall. One of the things I had to do was clean the bathrooms. It's real easy to tell the boys bathroom from the girls bathroom. The girls bathroom is a disaster. Totally disgusting how dirty it is. They poop on the edge of the toilet, the floor is covered in pee and poop. Toile paper that has been used is all over the floor. It was night and day different compared to the boys bathroom that usually just needed to have a few things picked up and then mop the floor. Ten minutes to clean the boys bathroom, and hour in the girls bathroom.

Honestly Eddie, my wife would argue with you on that.

Don't know how girls pee on the floor, but my wife could explain to you how one husband and two boys end up peeing on the floor by mistake LOL

That said, my wife is a neat freak when it comes to cleaning, which is a good thing at the end of the day. As a husband, it does get old, but I appreciate it as she keeps me in check.

 

[Sigarms]

What never made sense to me was separate men's & women's bathrooms when there was no difference between them...just a hopper and a sink, no urinal.

When in WV tubing with the scouts, I was wondering why I didn't see any urinals in the bathroom when I went it.

Never caught that issue as a kid at the Smithsonian LOL