Question on ****** harassment training

[MossRoad]

Anyone else had to take "Diversity training"??? Sensitivity training? Some of this would blow your minds... I'm still 3 years away from retirement and just need to survive it a little longer...

Yep. I don't mind it. Always good to try and understand what someone else might be thinking and why.

 

[MossRoad]

Not only is the female in the slide smoking hot, she is invading the males personal space in a very suggestive and wanton manner.

One interesting thing about the ****** harassment training now is that they make the female the aggressor in about half the examples. Fair is fair.

 

[MossRoad]

Not only is the female in the slide smoking hot, she is invading the males personal space in a very suggestive and wanton manner.

Also, whenever I hear that word, this comes to mind....

 

[crashz]

Anyone else had to take "Diversity training"??? Sensitivity training? Some of this would blow your minds... I'm still 3 years away from retirement and just need to survive it a little longer...

I had to finish a manager toolkit training recently and we went through these training sessions. There we some real examples in our company that were just simply bizarre. And don't forget that the company AND the violator can be liable.

I spoke up in the last training and simply stated that I will not handle any of these items. It can be almost unavoidable to say something that could be spun into a libelous statement, so in any "HR" situation I will immediately call HR for help.

 

[LittleBill21]

I had to finish a manager toolkit training recently and we went through these training sessions. There we some real examples in our company that were just simply bizarre. And don't forget that the company AND the violator can be liable.

I spoke up in the last training and simply stated that I will not handle any of these items. It can be almost unavoidable to say something that could be spun into a libelous statement, so in any "HR" situation I will immediately call HR for help.

We call it MARC training. it was over 3 hours. oh my.

 

[Blue Mule]

Anyone else had to take "Diversity training"??? Sensitivity training? Some of this would blow your minds... I'm still 3 years away from retirement and just need to survive it a little longer...

Yeah, we've been trained that in order to combat racism, the law requires us to consider "people of color" for job openings even if they are not even remotely as qualified for the position, which puts people not of color at a disadvantage simply based on the color of their skin, which in and of itself is racism.

It's enough to make your brain hurt. The shear stupidity in society makes a guy wonder if it's ethical to have children who will surely be subjected to even worse ignorance in the future.

 

[KennyG]

I spoke up in the last training and simply stated that I will not handle any of these items. It can be almost unavoidable to say something that could be spun into a libelous statement, so in any "HR" situation I will immediately call HR for help.

Before I retired, we were trained to not try to deal with any of these issues and to immediately refer it to HR. I liked the policy but I don't think most employees did. They would rather resolve it with people they know and work with.

 

[cdaigle430]

At the place I got let go from in February we used to have ****** Harassments Training, Identity Theft Training, Phishing, Smishing, SPAM training, Medical election training, Identity Theft training, Gender training, Black Lives Matter training, Elderly Abuse Training, Money Laundering Training, Password care training, Disability Training, general racism and genderism training, and 3 other training classes related to how to talk to customers without identifying a gender and Money Laundering.

Im just an IT guy who only supports the servers and the operating system-I have no access to data or applications. Talk about overload....we had to do this twice a year!

I feel so bad for companies now----so much to be careful about. The newest one was a 2 hour course on how to talk to people without hinting their gender-otherwise bank could get sued.

Life is soooooooo complicated now.

 

[Sigarms]

Most cases fall somewhere in between and can be resolved with a sit down and no further actions are required. Lessons learned and kept in your mental tool bag.

After I got "written up", I just told the manager that I really didn't need the job, got all my employee discounts I ever wanted since working there, and decided to quit so I wouldn't have the "official reprimand" on my employee record. Manager told me he was told by the home office he HAD to write me up and was sorry to see me go, but if I stayed, I'd be written up.

I knew this girl for a long time, thought we were friends (all of us would go out to grab a late night dinner after work from time to time), and my mistake was I talked to her like a friend who I treated no different than talking to a good buddy (nothing crude however). Litterally the comment was around to the effect "you had or have a hot date because you seem so excited?"

I thought worst case, going into the meeting with my manager, it would be a verbal reprimand and told don't do it again. Reality is, I was kind of ticked that one small comment made in jest was taken so wrong. Before the meeting, I wanted to apology to the girl for my behavior but after the meeting, I honestly never wanted to work with her again.

Like I said, lesson learned, and something I never forgot.
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In hintsight, I should of left and then apologized to her, but I was kind of steaming at the time.

Before that, worked part time as a banquet waiter during college. Only one of two guys who worked with 6-9 girls. NEVER a problem.

 

[JethroB]

One item that has stuck with me from diversity training many years ago, if you have two candidates for a position and their qualifications are even remotely similar, you’d better hire the minority.

 

[oosik]

I quit the government before - ****** harassment, diversity or sensitivity training was the "in thing". We just had to learn on the job. And, boy, did some of the guys/gals learn well!!!

 

[tradosaurus]

 

[Sigarms]

One item that has stuck with me from diversity training many years ago, if you have two candidates for a position and their qualifications are even remotely similar, you’d better hire the minority.

Sincere question.

The only two candidates are women applying for the same position. Education, work history, training and experience are identical between both canidates.

Potential employee A

Potential employee B

Which canidate do you go with and why?

 

[MoKelly]

Sincere question.

The only two candidates are women applying for the same position. Education, work history, training and experience are identical between both canidates.

Potential employee A

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Potential employee B

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Which canidate do you go with and why?

Is that how each showed up for the interview?

Is it a receptionist, warehouse worker or salesperson?

MoKelly

 

[oosik]

Neither. In the government position I had - either candidate would cause too much "commotion".

 

[Philm56]

Yes, we long for the good old days when we didn't have to be told what was wrong with our thinking. Except those days weren't so good for those who were being discriminated against. Every day. All day. By many different people. From the beginning of their lives. Just because of the color of their skin or their gender.

 

[MossRoad]

Sincere question.

The only two candidates are women applying for the same position. Education, work history, training and experience are identical between both canidates.


Which canidate do you go with and why?

Good gravy man, are you daft? Mimi gets the job!

But seriously, never had those extremes to deal with.

What we did at my last job was keep a huge stack of job applications in a drawer. Every time we got a new one, we'd put it at the back of the drawer. Every time we needed to hire someone, we pulled the application from the front and gave them a call.
I know it's been 2 years, but still interested in a job? Nope? Thanks.
Next
I know it's been 2 years, but still interested in a job? Nope? Thanks.
Next
I know it's been 2 years, but still interested in a job? Nope? Thanks.
Next
I know it's been 2 years, but still interested in a job? Nope? Thanks.
Next

When we got someone that said yes, we'd bing em in for an interview. If they passed muster with qualifications, they were hired regardless of what they looked like. If not:

I know it's been 2 years, but still interested in a job? Nope? Thanks.
Next
I know it's been 2 years, but still interested in a job? Nope? Thanks.
Next
I know it's been 2 years, but still interested in a job? Nope? Thanks.
Next

And so on.

The only time we ran into trouble was when HR took over applicants through on-line process. Then they'd send us 5 interviewees. THAT's when you run into trouble because you have to pick. Even with that, if there's a tie, first one that got the application in wins.

Easy peasy and able to defend in court.

 

[MossRoad]

News flash, back in the early 1900's up until perhaps the 50's, color of your skin had nothing to with most discrimination in a white town.
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My mom lived in Cincinnati and that certainly wasn't the case there. Discrimination against black people was rampant. Indiana, where I live now, had as I recall, the largest per capita membership in the KKK in that time period.

Anyhow. I'm gonna guess we should probably start winding this discussion down. I'm gonna bow out.

 

[dodge man]

My dad got his law degree late in life at age 55 and worked in a federal office. The year would have been about 1985. He told a really bad joke. There was a women who was very pro woman’s rights. The joke was “how many lawyers does it take to clean a toilet “? Her ears perked up and she rushed over to hear the punch line thinking it was going to insult lawyers. The punch line was “none, it’s women’s work”. A bad joke but her reaction was what was so funny so of course everyone in the office busted out laughing. She threatened to bring him up for ****** harassment charges for the joke. She didn’t but these days she probably would have.