Question to the firewood gurus

   / Question to the firewood gurus #31  
Before I mount a cooler I would also do what you did and see how it ran. And before I mounted a cooler I would try to add capacity. Adding capacity isnt really that hard if you dont care if the splitter looks factory. Granted it is a bit difficult to add capacity to splitter with a hydraulic tank that's also an axle...not not impossible with a welder.
Yeah, I was thinking the same. Not that hard to just cut one face off the tank and weld another box onto it. But not necessarily trusting myself to do a few hundred cumulative inches of airtight welding without a single pin hole, it might actually be a job that I just prep and tack myself, and then take to a pro for the final welds.
 
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   / Question to the firewood gurus #32  
You tube is wrong. The releif valve pressure on mine is set at 2,000 psi
 
   / Question to the firewood gurus #33  
Yeah, I was thinking the same. Not that hard to just cut one face off the tank and weld another box onto it. But not necessarily trusting myself to do a few hundred cumulative inches of airtight welding without a single pin hole, it might actually be a job that I just prep and tack myself, and then take to a pro for the final welds.
Nothing says the additional tank has to be attached to the original. If you feel compelled to add storage capacity you could add a new tank in series to the existing tank using hydraulic lines and fittings.

I'm not quite sure why you are so focused on getting a relatively small improvement in cycle time. When I split it is extremely rare for the piston to still be retracting when I am getting the log re-positioned for the next split. I do tend to split larger logs so maybe it takes longer to position than what you are splitting.
 
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   / Question to the firewood gurus #34  
Manufacturers usually rate things at best scenario with things being at MSL, oil temperature just perfect and everything new. Sometimes things a are rated to make it sound better to the public for an agenda. Prime example is EV. Distances with 100% charge one person level ground, perfect temperature then charge time from at or above 10% to 80%. Plus they recommend to stay within those parameters so now you really have a 70% distance with one person flat ground perfect temperature as normal use. Maybe.
 
   / Question to the firewood gurus #35  
Nothing says the additional tank has to be attached to the original. If you feel compelled to add storage capacity you could add a new tank in series to the existing tank using hydraulic lines and fittings.
Good point. And actually, separate tanks would have better cooling, due to larger surface to volume ratio. Thanks!

I'm not quite sure why you are so focused on getting a relatively small improvement in cycle time.
Relatively small? I cut it in half! :ROFLMAO:

As to the "why", I find standing next to a splitter waiting for that cylinder to cycle, even a small fraction of the total stroke length, about as frustrating as willing grass to grow before my eyes. I just don't have the time to wait on a slow splitter, given the amount of wood I'm trying to process in just a few Saturdays each year.

On amount of wood: My peak production for personal use was three years in a row at 14 full cords per year, 2011 - 2014, as I was burning 10+ each year and trying to work ahead to build a fresh 3-year stockpile after moving house, so it could be properly dried before I burn it. Then we had two other years when I did not get to split at all due to either weather or other house projects, and each of those was followed by a year or two back at the 15+ cord level.

You try splitting that much wood, and then tell you don't care about splitter speed! :p

When I split it is extremely rare for the piston to still be retracting when I am getting the log re-positioned for the next split. I do tend to split larger logs so maybe it takes longer to position than what you are splitting.
Yeah, it definitely varies. Weather calamities (hurricanes, tornados) and the place from which I'm harvesting each year dictate the dominant species I get, with me doing nearly all oak for many years, then two years of almost entirely hickory, and now lots of ash due to EAB. As soon as I get used to one wood that pops apart easily with partial strokes, I'm back into full years of another that requires a nearly-full stroke on every split.

So while the actual savings is less on those rounds that can be short-stroked (e.g. black walnut, ash), I'm not so lucky to consistently get those woods. In 45 years of splitting wood every year, starting from when I was just helping dad, and now averaging 10 cords per year on my own, I've probably seen and worked with nearly every type of firewood that's predominant around our area.
 
   / Question to the firewood gurus #36  
A few figures for hydraulics as it relates to log splitters.
1. smaller cylinder = faster speed, less force Larger cylinder = slower speed more force
2.Speed of cylinder is determined only by output of the pump. GPM
3. The pump does not make pressure, it only moves oil, the resistence of the load "makes" the pressure.
4. Most splitters use a two stage pump which has more speed (Higher GPM) at low pressure, but slows (less GPM) at a preset higher pressure.
5. A single stage high GPM pump requires a large engine without stalling. A two stage pump allows a smaller engine to be used.
6. There is some way to relieve the maximum pressure the pump can produce, if not a line, the cylinder or the pump would blow. The higher the pressure the more chances of leaks.
7. A control valve usually does not fail, the pump will wear from use or dirt passing thru it, they can also fail due to internal seals, a two stage pump can fail to "kick down" or speedup when lightly loaded. the cylinder has internal seals that can bypass oil past the piston, reducing speed and force. Low pressure can be caused by 1 a bad pump, 2 relief valve setting, 3 the internal seals (piston) leaking. Note Internal cylinder seals leaking will NOT be visible. Putting an ear or pipe on the cylinder and listening you will hear a hissing sound.
8. A larger pump GPM will NOT increase the force, but WILL increase the speed the cylinder moves and may require a larger engine.
9 Log splitter usually hold a large amount of oil will not overheat the oil which if left original requires no cooler to be added.
10. A log splitter hydraulics is very simple system. If you think not try some industrial or farm equipment systems.
 

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