Quick Hitches Quick Hitches question

digicamnut · Mar 8, 2008

I've bought 2 quick hitches lately and brought both back. First was from HF and wouldn't make up to my Box Blade and was made pretty cheap. Got another from TSC and was a Speeco brand built alot better but I found out after I got it home you had to buy bushings for all your attachments. This, to me is a marketing ploy to make you buy all these bushings for anything you have to hook up to it.

Why can't the company make the thing where you don't have to use those bushings.

Am I wrong in my thinking or what?

This kinda junk irritates me to no end and kinda makes me want to steer clear of anything a company sells even if it is a good product.

MACDABS · Mar 8, 2008

I think you need bushings for all the quick hitchs . My Jd I match quick hitch needs bushings , I just move them to the implement I am using at that time.

Macdabs

digicamnut · Mar 8, 2008

I think the standard for attachments lower arms are 3/4" The HF QH is 3/4" I think Buhler has another. I see absolutly no need to have to use bushings when they can make the opening on the QH a shade bigger than 3/4" and forget the bushings.

Mighty Dodge · Mar 9, 2008

I've got a HF quick hitch. Don't need bushings. I did buy the optional top link though as some of my implements won't easily hook to the quick hitch top link hook.

M.D.

greg_g · Mar 9, 2008

Lower lift pins on Cat 1 implements are 7/8" diameter, Cat 2 are 1-1/8". A typical entry level quick hitch (like the HF and the SpeeCo) has Cat 2 lower lift hooks. No lower bushings required to lift Cat 2 implements, install bushings to lift Cat 1 implements.

I really don't know what the issue is though. Bushings don't even cost a buck and a half a pair - cheaper if you make them yourself. BUSHINGS - Agri Supply

//greg//

gerard · Mar 9, 2008

I had a landpride qh that didn't need bushings for cat 1 and was very well made. (Also think it was over $200 if I recall correctly). Sold it when I bought Pats easy change unit which works even better than a qh though I wouldn't be without one or the other.

smitty9266 · Mar 9, 2008

I have 2 quick hitches the land pride and the Harbor Freight model. You can use them without bushings in implements that have a captive lower link ( you slide a pin thru a ear then the quick hitch then another ear). Implements that have a bolted in place pin you should use the bushings to keep them on the quick hitch as they have a shoulder to keep them from sliding out of the hitch arms. They will work on most implements with out bushings but have a lot of play rattle and you will have a hard time holding a set height because of the play.

Jeff

milkman · Mar 9, 2008

Just order the Pats Easy Change, available link on this site, and stop the hassle, although you still have to connect the top link. Works with everything I use no matter the width, even works with a post hole digger. I'm not affiliated with them in any way, I just have a set and they work for me.

https://www.imcuniverse.com/store/easychange.htm

lawn_king · Mar 9, 2008

I have the land pride quick hitch, it comes with bushings. I rarely use it, i just dont like anything between the hitch & the implement. Perhaps its my imagination, but it seems implements dont perform as well using the quick hitch?

Willis Fecon Bushhogging · Mar 9, 2008

digicamnut said:
I've bought 2 quick hitches lately and brought both back. First was from HF and wouldn't make up to my Box Blade and was made pretty cheap. Got another from TSC and was a Speeco brand built alot better but I found out after I got it home you had to buy bushings for all your attachments. This, to me is a marketing ploy to make you buy all these bushings for anything you have to hook up to it. Why can't the company make the thing where you don't have to use those bushings. Am I wrong in my thinking or what? This kinda junk irritates me to no end and kinda makes me want to steer clear of anything a company sells even if it is a good product.

I am in the commerical end of the work, I tried the Pats and it didnt hold up, just not strong enough. We are pretty rough on equipment, it has to be good to work with us

digicamnut · Mar 9, 2008

greg_g said:
Lower lift pins on Cat 1 implements are 7/8" diameter, Cat 2 are 1-1/8". A typical entry level quick hitch (like the HF and the SpeeCo) has Cat 2 lower lift hooks. No lower bushings required to lift Cat 2 implements, install bushings to lift Cat 1 implements.

I really don't know what the issue is though. Bushings don't even cost a buck and a half a pair - cheaper if you make them yourself. BUSHINGS - Agri Supply

//greg//

TSC wants 22.00 for theirs Tractor Supply Company - SpeeCo Cat 1 Quick Hitch Bush 3 Point Kit I've got 5 imps over 100.00.

greg_g · Mar 9, 2008

digicamnut said:
TSC wants 22.00 for theirs Tractor Supply Company - SpeeCo Cat 1 Quick Hitch Bush 3 Point Kit I've got 5 imps over 100.00.

Well, five sets from AgSupply for what - $10 delivered? Or $22+ at TSC (pretty sure you only need one set per SpeeCo hitch, not one set per implement). Your choice.

Or get out your hacksaw, I've made some of my own for next to nothing.

//greg//

Blackbird_BX · Mar 9, 2008

digicamnut said:
TSC wants 22.00 for theirs Tractor Supply Company - SpeeCo Cat 1 Quick Hitch Bush 3 Point Kit I've got 5 imps over 100.00.

I didn't bother with the kit. I just bought the cheap bushings at TSC SpeeCo Cat Bushing 1 2 3 Point Lift Arm for $1.25 each. The Agri Supply are much cheaper for seems to be the same thing.

digicamnut · Mar 9, 2008

Blackbird_BX said:
I didn't bother with the kit. I just bought the cheap bushings at TSC SpeeCo Cat Bushing 1 2 3 Point Lift Arm for $1.25 each. The Agri Supply are much cheaper for seems to be the same thing.

3 bucks a set sounds alot better than the 23.00.

Thanks for the input guys I'm so new in this tractor business that I didn't know about a cheaper route. Those Speeco bushings have to be pinned in almost like permanent I think. I didn't like the idea of doing that...

chadincolo · Mar 11, 2008

The need for bushings on the lower lift pins comes from the ASAE (now called ASABE) specifications for quick hitches for three point implements, doesn't have to do with wanting to sell more stuff, has to do with meeting the industry guidelines that were set, then largely ignored by Cat I implement makers until recently...

Go back to TSC, ask for the Economy Quick Hitch from Speeco. They won't be in stock yet (should be going out to TSC Distribution Centers shortly) but they are designed to not meet the ASABE specs, meaning you won't need the bushings. You may need to talk to the store manager, have him call Speeco if he doesn't know what you are asking about. Tell them to ask for Chad in engineering if the customer service person doesn't know the part numbers.

digicamnut · Mar 11, 2008

chadincolo said:
The need for bushings on the lower lift pins comes from the ASAE (now called ASABE) specifications for quick hitches for three point implements, doesn't have to do with wanting to sell more stuff, has to do with meeting the industry guidelines that were set, then largely ignored by Cat I implement makers until recently...

Go back to TSC, ask for the Economy Quick Hitch from Speeco. They won't be in stock yet (should be going out to TSC Distribution Centers shortly) but they are designed to not meet the ASABE specs, meaning you won't need the bushings. You may need to talk to the store manager, have him call Speeco if he doesn't know what you are asking about. Tell them to ask for Chad in engineering if the customer service person doesn't know the part numbers.

I stand to be corrected. I forgot that sometimes big brother has the final say on some things. I am checking at TSC as I type. Sorry if I put Speeco in a bad light. My apologies.

chadincolo · Mar 13, 2008

digicamnut said:
I stand to be corrected. I forgot that sometimes big brother has the final say on some things. I am checking at TSC as I type. Sorry if I put Speeco in a bad light. My apologies.

No problem, hope I didn't sound to be "mean", just trying to add information.

I'll PM you my phone number if you need help finding the new Quick Hitch through TSC.

JCB · Mar 13, 2008

Digi,

I always thought that quick hitches were Cat 3...so you could use Cat 3 implements. It's only when using Cat 1 implements that you need bushings.

The Cat. 3 guys are loving it!

Joe

greg_g · Mar 13, 2008

JCB said:
Digi,

I always thought that quick hitches were Cat 3...so you could use Cat 3 implements. It's only when using Cat 1 implements that you need bushings.

The Cat. 3 guys are loving it!

Joe

Are you sure you mean Cat 3 Joe? Cat 3 hitches are typically found on tractors above 100 hp. They fit 1-7/16" lower lift pins, which can be capable of lifting over six tons. Ain't no way a $100 QuickHitch is gonna run with that pack.

//greg//