R1 don’t work as well going in reverse?

DieselMonk · May 2, 2006

Re: R1 don’t work as well going in reverse?

( ( PineRidge
That is not good. Better to either get weight on the rear, or possibly back down so the tires bite better.

Too many things can happen to cause a tractor to suddenly turn sideways and roll when they are sliding downhill. For one, if a brake on one wheel is applied,then the other wheel will roll twice as fast (due to the differential working) causing instability. If both brakes are applied evenly and perfectly, then the slide can be somewhat controlled, if one is lucky.

If me, I'd figure a better way to get down the pond dam. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif )

Don't think it's a matter of weight as theres an additional 950 pounds of cast iron on the back.

Please don't misunderstand as I don't take the slide intentionally or more than it took to initially learn that it was bound to happen. It seemed to me that the grass aided in the slide and was always stripped off in a straight line to the bottom of the dam. And yes backing down the dam was a solution that does work well, so is an alternative route that's not so steep. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Thanks for the concern. )

Got some pictures for that? Now you made me curious! /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

PineRidge · May 2, 2006

Re: R1 don’t work as well going in reverse?

Got some pictures for that? Now you made me curious! 

Pictures of the 40D sliding down the dam or the shorts that I had to change when it happened? /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

rambler · May 3, 2006

If you indeed need to work in mud, the industrial tires will have _much_ less traction than the ag tires.

He is correct, ag tires deal with mudd in one direction much better than the other.

What he didn't mention is that industrial tires cake up with mud much quicker & are even more useless. As well, they have some (less, but some) angle to their tread, and also work better forward than reverse.

I think he's trying to sell what he has on hand, not help you match up your needs to the right tire.

I'm not sure what you _need_, but his explination seems to be only '1/2 the story...'

--->Paul

DieselMonk · May 3, 2006

Re: R1 don’t work as well going in reverse?

( Got some pictures for that? Now you made me curious! 

Pictures of the 40D sliding down the dam or the shorts that I had to change when it happened? /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif )

Ummm.... in this case... let me think for a moment... BOTH! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Or even better a mp4 movie... LOL

Doc_Bob · May 3, 2006

( If you indeed need to work in mud, the industrial tires will have _much_ less traction than the ag tires.

He is correct, ag tires deal with mudd in one direction much better than the other.

What he didn't mention is that industrial tires cake up with mud much quicker & are even more useless. As well, they have some (less, but some) angle to their tread, and also work better forward than reverse.

I think he's trying to sell what he has on hand, not help you match up your needs to the right tire.

I'm not sure what you _need_, but his explination seems to be only '1/2 the story...'

--->Paul )

Paul, I agree, he wants to sell what he has on the lot. I understand. Heck, I would do the same. I had a neighbor come over with his TC40DA, R4 and his tree augur to dig 50 holes for me. The ground is wet and his R4s got full of mud. As I watched him take the asphalt road back to his place, the mud trail was like little bread crumbs showing his path home.
Bob

daTeacha · May 3, 2006

Ags will load up somewhat, too. They just shed it faster. If you neighbor had ags, you would have mud clogs the size of bread loaves for a short distance, then nothing. Dropping the mud is in large part a function of the ability of the lugs to flex, thereby loosening the grip of the mud to rubber. R4 lugs are wider and shorter, thus more stable than the R1 lugs. That stability is why they wear better on concrete and similar surfaces.