Railroad rails.

   / Railroad rails. #11  
Build a road grader with the rails.

Bruce
 
   / Railroad rails. #12  
No go on the ties.

Wrong kind of steel and just not enough depth to them to make them strong enough.

Get some Steel I-beam that is of sufficient size. Something along the lines of a 8 or 10" beam should be fine for average sized vehichles.

It is the "deep" part of your statement that has me worried. You want to make sure to do it right if you are crossing anything "deep"
 
   / Railroad rails. #13  
I agree with the "No Go" on the rails for your bridge. The "deep" term frightens me as well. To see how much vertical flex their is in a rail (even with ties <12" apart) go watch a freight train lumber along and look at the vertical deflection. The rails on the track don't have much laterally (horizontal) deflection because they are nailed to the ties with the spikes. Your bridge would be like spaghetti when you had a load on it. If deep is over two feet, I would NOT want to be on it with equipment or a loaded truck. I would go with the suggested "I" beam. See if any of the local railroads are rebuilding any of their bridges. Locally when UP redid theirs, they gave away up to 20 ft lengths of 12"-18" I beam salvaged from them. They also had large diameter, about 15-16" timbers that were 20+ ft in length that they gave away as well. That I beam would build a bridge strong enough to handle an Abrams Tank. All we needed to do was get them loaded onto our trailer without destroying it or us. The rails make excellent cattle guards and will also make good obstacles to keep the advancing hoards of people off your property when the apocalypse begins. Good Luck!!
 
   / Railroad rails.
  • Thread Starter
#14  
The gully is 10 feet across and about 8 feet deep. I figured on about 3 feet on each side for some type of footing that would not sink or move. The most weight on the bridge would be my Mahindra and a trailer I use to haul firewood. I have no good access to the back of my property otherwise. I'll skip the rails and seek another solution.

Has anyone had any dealings with this company?

All Terrain Bridge | ATV Bridge, Golfcart Bridge, Pedestrian Bridge, Small Bridge
 
   / Railroad rails. #15  
The gully is 10 feet across and about 8 feet deep. I figured on about 3 feet on each side for some type of footing that would not sink or move. The most weight on the bridge would be my Mahindra and a trailer I use to haul firewood. I have no good access to the back of my property otherwise. I'll skip the rails and seek another solution.

Has anyone had any dealings with this company?

All Terrain Bridge | ATV Bridge, Golfcart Bridge, Pedestrian Bridge, Small Bridge

Nope, but I am going to contact them, as this site interests me
 
   / Railroad rails. #17  
1. Flat "containers" are sold for bridges. These are 40. They also make 20's.
Heavy Steel Bridges 40ft
flatcontainer.jpg


2. Use a 20 box container or old truck trailer, open both ends, and have a covered bridge.
ContainerCoveredBridge.jpg


3. Semi truck or trailer frames are used for farm bridges.

4. Railroad flat cars are often used, but this is more interesting.
PassCarBridge.jpg
 
   / Railroad rails. #18  
Are you wanting a foot/ATV bridge? Or driving cars, tractors, semi trucks, etc across it?

The rails might make interesting runners for a suspension bridge. Ten foot isn't too long of a distance. If you had 4 support cables on your suspension bridge, that would put your supports at about 2' each, or well within what is used to support a train.

Out of your 3 24' rails, you could make:
2 - 14' runners.
4 - 10' posts.

You'd still need your cross planking.

I'm not sure I'd drive a car across it, but it should be plenty strong to walk across, or drive a 4-wheeler across.
 
   / Railroad rails. #19  
A mobile home frame would work well for what little weight you are going to be moving across. It looks as if you are not going to be presenting much over a 3 or 4 ton load on the bridge. If its only 10 ft across and you have three 24' rails I would not worry about getting anything else and just build it. I have used good 15' railroad ties for bridges on the ranch crossing creeks that are 7' across and 4' deep with no problem. We run a Ford 4000 pulling a 20' trailer with hay across it all the time (8 - 10 tons gross) for the last 10 years. Just make sure you have a good base on each side for whatever is going to span the draw AND that the walls will not crumble out from under you. We have lots of 8-9' RR ties so we lay four of them parallel to the creek on each side for the foundation and lay the longer ties on top spanning the water.

bank H2O bank
l-l-l-l---------l-l-l-l l RR Tie
l-l-l-l---------l-l-l-l l -------- 15' RR Tie


We use two or three of the 15' ties and then place one or two layers of 2"x12"x8' rough planks (full 2" not planed) perpendicular to the 15' ties. We have never had a breakthrough. We do monitor the planks and ties though just to make sure. You could do the same using the rails instead of the 15' ties. You would have 5' or so on each side of the draw. I would drive my tractors across your bridge since its such a short span. Good Luck Dr. S
 
   / Railroad rails. #20  
A mobile home frame would work well for what little weight you are going to be moving across. It looks as if you are not going to be presenting much over a 3 or 4 ton load on the bridge. If its only 10 ft across and you have three 24' rails I would not worry about getting anything else and just build it. I have used good 15' railroad ties for bridges on the ranch crossing creeks that are 7' across and 4' deep with no problem. We run a Ford 4000 pulling a 20' trailer with hay across it all the time (8 - 10 tons gross) for the last 10 years. Just make sure you have a good base on each side for whatever is going to span the draw AND that the walls will not crumble out from under you. We have lots of 8-9' RR ties so we lay four of them parallel to the creek on each side for the foundation and lay the longer ties on top spanning the water.

bank H2O bank
l-l-l-l---------l-l-l-l l RR Tie
l-l-l-l---------l-l-l-l l -------- 15' RR Tie


We use two or three of the 15' ties and then place one or two layers of 2"x12"x8' rough planks (full 2" not planed) perpendicular to the 15' ties. We have never had a breakthrough. We do monitor the planks and ties though just to make sure. You could do the same using the rails instead of the 15' ties. You would have 5' or so on each side of the draw. I would drive my tractors across your bridge since its such a short span. Good Luck Dr. S

If this bridge is built as suggested please advise all of us where it is so we can steer away from it
:shocked:
 

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