Ram1500 EcoDiesel V6 revealed!

   / Ram1500 EcoDiesel V6 revealed! #181  
I wonder how it will sell when Nissan and Toyota have diesels with 100 more HP and Ft Tq? Might be a tough sell.
Chris

Two things yet to see from these announcements, cost and transmission options. I doubt their diesel options are going to be in the same price range as the RAM's.
 
   / Ram1500 EcoDiesel V6 revealed! #182  
from the video, the laramie longhorn edition with the 3 liter diesel is $55,205. for a 1/2 ton pickup truck. i have absolutely no interest in anybody's pickup truck at that price, regardless of how much leather is in the interior or what fuel the engine uses. that's just ridiculous, and all the pickup truck manufacturer's are guilty of this nonsense.

The Hemi version is about the same price. Or are you railing against the cost in general? I looked at a Laramie Hemi last year with a sticker of $52K. They came down $16K to try and make the sale.... Shows you how much margin there is in these trucks.
 
   / Ram1500 EcoDiesel V6 revealed! #183  
Two things yet to see from these announcements, cost and transmission options. I doubt their diesel options are going to be in the same price range as the RAM's.

Transmission is a huge part of the package. I still think for me to even consider it would have to average 30 plus since diesel is 65 cents more a gallon here.

Chris
 
   / Ram1500 EcoDiesel V6 revealed! #184  
Many of us who hold a vehicle longer than 3 years are not impressed with all the bling and high cost associated with North American light trucks.

Most of the rest of the world has access to basic work oriented light trucks, diesel powered. Jason started a great thread a while back:

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/trailers-transportation/288903-compact-diesel-trucks-we-cant.html

I'd be taking a serious look at any of those Nissan, Toyota, and VW offerings if we had them here. Not discussed in that thread, but also performing well in non N. American markets is the current Ford Ranger diesel.

I want to see all new diesel offerings do well in North America, as it's high time we made better use of them. I hope this Ram does well, and that they get their pricing back in line with what they were originally talking about. Longhorn is probably part of the spec/price problem. Last I heard (USA may be different), Canadian customers will be able to get this diesel in the base truck.

Rgds, D.

Dave, I hope Ram offers diesel in the base model. These trucks are getting foolish with the options ($55,000+) and have gone so far from what Id call a "work truck". Mostly mall cruisers now it seems.
 
   / Ram1500 EcoDiesel V6 revealed! #185  
Dave, I hope Ram offers diesel in the base model. These trucks are getting foolish with the options ($55,000+) and have gone so far from what Id call a "work truck". Mostly mall cruisers now it seems.
exactly my observation... here in Europe a Diesel (with a few peak horses less, but more usable torque, so comparing the same 0-60 numbers) are equally priced. I assume the "EcoDiesel" badge, with the word "eco" is worth three grand on its own...
 
   / Ram1500 EcoDiesel V6 revealed! #186  
The Hemi version is about the same price. Or are you railing against the cost in general? I looked at a Laramie Hemi last year with a sticker of $52K. They came down $16K to try and make the sale.... Shows you how much margin there is in these trucks.

the upcharge for the 3 liter diesel is supposedly $2850, which i don't think is terribly out of line. i am indeed agog at what i consider to be a ridiculous price for a 1/2 ton pickup truck.

i guess i'm old fashioned, but i see a pickup truck as a work vehicle. i get into mine with muddy boots and grouse as i grind mud into the carpet. a thick vinyl floor covering would be ideal: open the doors, hose it out, shut the doors, and go do something useful. i have a plastic bed liner so the tailgate and bed don't get scratched, but if i didn't have a bed liner then the scratches wouldn't bother me much (it's a used truck and i didn't install the bed liner). i do want some creature comforts, like a/c, cruise control, intermittent wipers, and maybe power windows. leather anything? no. fancy paint? no. crew cab? no. 8 foot box and a little room behind the front seats so i can keep the power tools dry. with something like a ram box i could pass on the bigger cab.

i don't drive my pickup daily because it is too expensive to operate. that would change if i could get something like 20 mpg in town and 25 on the highway but still be able to tow a useful payload.
 
   / Ram1500 EcoDiesel V6 revealed! #187  
I think they are going after the RV crowd. People who want all the luxuries of home in the cab and be able to tow 7000 lbs without having to stop at every gas pump.
 
   / Ram1500 EcoDiesel V6 revealed! #188  
i don't drive my pickup daily because it is too expensive to operate. that would change if i could get something like 20 mpg in town and 25 on the highway but still be able to tow a useful payload.

Trucks with gas engines are pretty much there now.
 
   / Ram1500 EcoDiesel V6 revealed! #189  
Well.... sh.... Canadian pricing is now up on the web..... $4500 option for the diesel over the Hemi. :mad:

And they have downgraded the towing capacity to 7200 lbs.
 
   / Ram1500 EcoDiesel V6 revealed! #190  
Well.... sh.... Canadian pricing is now up on the web..... $5500 option for the diesel over the Hemi. :mad:

And they have downgraded the towing capacity to 7200 lbs.

Do they have fuel economy numbers?
 

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