Ratcheting tie downs BROKE in transit!

   / Ratcheting tie downs BROKE in transit! #71  
Thinking about this some more, I have convinced myself that for the same static (slow pulling) ultimate breaking strength, it makes sense that steel chain holds up better under impulses of over-loads than a nylon strap does.

This difference between static and dynamic strength is why a truck full of steel coils can flop over and the chains hold while the nylon straps break (assuming the peak impulse loads easily exceed the static ratings of both the chain and the strap).

Between the elastic point and the ultimate failure point, the steel chain will deform quite a bit - all those links being stretched into slightly longer, narrower shapes. It takes energy to deform the steel - a force applied over some distance. If the overload situation is limited in time duration or in the stretching distance, the chain will halt the movement of the thing pulling on it before it breaks, being permanently deformed in the process.

Meanwhile, with the same over-load the nylon strap has some elastic give, but there is a lot less margin betwen its elastic limit and ultimate failure. Both because of its material and its construction being straight strands vs. rounded chain links. Once the strands have stretched as far as they will go, the force curve quickly takes a dive as the material becomes plastic, flowing and deforming to the point of failure with little or no additional force. The strap either springs back or it fails - but never ends up permamently stretched very much. Once past its elastic limit, the nylon strap has very little ability to absorb even short impulses of additional energy.

- Rick
 
   / Ratcheting tie downs BROKE in transit! #72  
Dargo. I took your advice today. I bought 4 racheting binders/boomers and 4 grade 70 chains for my new, today, 7'X18 foot Anderson utility trailer. The CK20 fits on it nicely with implements front and back and it rides like a dream. Brakes on both axles to BTW.
Good chains sure are expensive. binders and chains, $225.00.
I think I got a good deal on the trailer though, 1975.00 with brakes on both axles. Added the brake controller to the Suburban with towing package ($225 installed), and I'm good to go. I couldn't wait to get home and put the CK on top. I thought of your predicament several times during the day while buying everything. I reiterate that I'm glad you made it through without a scratch. I keep imagining the possiblities. John
 
   / Ratcheting tie downs BROKE in transit!
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KiotiJohn, I think you made a smart move (for obvious reasons /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif) and you won't regret it. I seriously doubt that you'll drop that shiney CK20 off prematurely during your next trip now. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif As I said earlier, I don't feel that I'm particularly "lucky", so I jumped at my chance after lady luck was riding with me.

I just got home with my new larger trailer. Since I was mentioning "luck" and the sorts, get this; my new trailer is 25' long and a gooseneck trailer. My "old" trailer is an 18 footer and is has a bumper type hitch. Turning into my driveway with my new trailer, I found that it doesn't fit! /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif I had to stop traffic and make 4 "adjustments" to clear my brick columns that are at the entrance to my driveway. My drive is off of a 2 lane road with a deep ditch on the opposite side of the road. I took as big and as wide of a turn as possible the first time and I wasn't close to making it! What now!? /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

I've been up for 3 days now, so I'm going to have to sleep on this one. I'm hoping that someone will have some "miracle" suggestion for me (other than getting rid of the new trailer I bought that is the size I need, or moving large brick columns that have engraved nameplates in them). /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
   / Ratcheting tie downs BROKE in transit! #74  
Let's see a pic of that new trailer when you get some rest. Are you having a bad week or what? If trailer just won't fit maybe we can trade.
 
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Holy cow! 4000 trees just showed up for me to plant!! /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif I get to try out that new trailer, my post hole digger, and the new chains and binders that came on the same truck with the trees.
 
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av8r, backing in would be a good idea except my driveway is 1000 feet long, crosses a creek, and is only 11' wide. I'm not that good. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif I suppose I may have to just practice though... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
   / Ratcheting tie downs BROKE in transit! #78  
Dargo, you'll find mortar has little tensile strength, one good bump with the trailer and they should topple right over /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Ratcheting tie downs BROKE in transit! #79  
I was thinking that, but did not want to say it!
 
   / Ratcheting tie downs BROKE in transit! #80  
I will not use nylon straps. I bought chains and binders from Harbor Freight. They have 3/8" x 14' chain with grab hooks on each end for under $20. when on sale. Add to that their ratcheting chain binder with hooks and you won't have that problem again. Also be sure to block your tractor wheels. I've never had a problem with my Mahindra 2615 moving after it was chained down on my Homemade Beavertail trailer.
 

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